Lukashenko: I Provided No Safety Guarantees to Prigozhin
This is Luka both admitting who the assassins were and covering his own ass.
If you don’t know, the Wagner mutiny was called off in June because President Lukashenko stepped in and negotiated a compromise with Wagner and the Kremlin. A quick refresher on the sequence of events:
Moscow launches the SMO, signs secret peace deal with Kiev, gets tricked yet again ;^), has to use mercenary groups to plug in the gaps in their own gutted and totally destroyed military (Serdyukov and Shoigu’s liberalization reforms)
Wagner is brought in and proves to be the only Russian razdeleniye capable of taking the fight against the UAF
Problems begin in earnest in winter when their supplies are cut (confirmed by FSB reports) by the MoD
A game of tit-for-tat escalation in the media ensues
Prigozhin threatens to topple Shoigu and Gerasimov, accuses them of plotting to kill him, use the UAF to destroy Wagner, starve them of supplies
Shoigu demands that Prigozhin surrender Wagner to him, either to his own PMC “Redut” or to the MoD by July 1st
Prigozhin alleges that the MoD tried to assassinate him and his officers and launched a night attack on his base
Prigozhin takes a joyride across the entire southern half of European Russia unopposed and parks his 4k strong army, led by Uktin outside Moscow where the mall cops have been deployed to stop him
Luka steps in and helps cut a deal between Wagner and the MoD + PA acting as guarantor for Wagner
After the ceasefire, Wagner is moved to Belarus where they set up a new mini-city mega-base and begin sending troops to Africa instead
Luka brags to Putin that Wagner is doing great, having a good time, helping the Belarussians out big time
Prigozhin invited to Moscow with the Wagner team that participated in the joyride and is killed in a tragic air accident
Shock and silence and cryptic statements from the Kremlin
Now Luka, the man who arranged the initial agreement broke his silence. Obviously, it looked really really really bad that he gave his word and staked his reputation as a guarantor to Wagner in this spat and then Wagner had a tragic accident. So, naturally, Luka had to say something. This is what he came up with:
Lukashenko said that Prigozhin never asked for security guarantees for himself
“To answer this question directly: I don’t have to ensure Prigozhin’s safety. This is, firstly. Secondly, the conversation has never been about this,” Alexander Lukashenko said. Thirdly, the first time I called him and negotiations were going on, when they marched to Moscow. I told him: "Zhen, you understand, you will kill people and die yourself?" In the heat of the moment, this man (fresh from the front) said: "To hell with it, I'll die!" I told him: "Zhen, I'll send you a rope and a bar of soap." - "No, no, no. I don't want that. I will die a hero." Here was the first conversation. The second time he came to me with Dima Utkin. I categorically warned them both."
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Now, ask yourself, why is Lukashenko categorically denying that he provided safety guarantees to Prigozhin to keep him safe from the wrath of the Kremlin when this was an air accident? Why is recollecting how he warned Prigozhin that he would be killed and saying “I told him so,” essentially?
Do you get it? Do you understand yet? Or are you still in denial about who killed Wagner?
Lukashenko LITERALLY JUST TOLD YOU WHO DID IT!!!
Do you still need more time to scratch your head and rub your bum? Is this puzzle a bit too much for you to figure out? Do you think that when Luka says, “I warned them both", that he means that he warned them about mechanical malfunctions???
For Chrissakes, people. Seriously, get your IQ checked!!! You will find it illuminating regardless of what the results read. Luka’s statement should be the proof that no one needed really because it was so damn obvious, but here it is anyway.
By the way, is Luka a NATO agent? Because every single time I state the obvious, Yahweh-fearing, prophecy-believing, plan-trusting cognitive yokels yelp in unison at me. Apply these same standards to Luka then why don’t you?
Luka CIA mole confirmed.
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Artem the Communist’s take on Luka’s statement is closest to mine. Here:
How stupid and primitive everything has become. They are all so rotten that they are not even able to lie beautifully. The dark ages have arrived...
Lol. No lie detected. He continues:
You don't have to believe your eyes and ears. Today he said that he did not give any guarantees - that means he did not give them. What other questions might there be?
And:
In general, comrades. It is very similar to the fact that "Minsk-3" is waiting for us. As in 2015, there are no more organized forces that will resist this. The stuff about our planned counter-offensive, which Lukashenka hinted at in a long interview with Panchenko, reminds me of rumors that the Russian Federation is about to introduce troops that went to Donbass from 2014 to 2017.
I would love to be wrong, but the political picture is very bleak.
Yeah, they have been stringing patriots within Russia along with promises of an escalation and a swift resolution to the situation for literally years now. Even Rolo’s podcast patrons in Russia largely believe that this time, for sure, they aren’t being strung along and something will change. The government literally sends ambassadors to make the rounds with the patriotic organizations operation in Russia and reassure them that all is well.
And when the spook/priest comes along to tell you to close your eyes and believe, well, you fall on your knees and pray if you know what’s good for you if you know what I’m saying.
Generally, I find that it is easy to trick people when they want to be tricked, don’t you?
If you tell people that their soul is saved so long as they say some magic words and tip the priest 10% or that the good guys have already taken control of the government secretly or that the war is already won, etc. you have an easier time then if you were trying to lie people into doing something hard or unpleasant. That is why most liars and conmen tell people pleasant lies that resonate with the peasants’ innate laziness, stupidity, arrogance, blood-thirst, greed and so on.
Some more Artem:
Reading the comments under the post about Lukashenka, I understand that sectarianism is a modern scourge of the Russian people. Millions of Russians have joined the Ukrainian sect and pray to this idol. Millions have joined the sect of the "last defender of socialism" [Luka] and are praying for him. Millions join the sect of "witnesses of the cunning plan" [Putinism] and pray for the alleged author of this plan. Thousands - in the sect "Essence of Time" and pray for Kurginyan [Armenian sovok who promotes gibberish]. Thousands - in the NOD sect and pray for Fedorov's nonsense [Don’t know this one, feel free to chime in if you do]. Tens of thousands - to the Hodos [fans of Khodakovsky like friend of the blog, Donbass Cowboy] sect, etc. and so on.
There are few people who are able to receive information, process it on their own and give out at least in the comments THEIR THOUGHTS, and not the postulates of their sect, which your leaders and propagandists are broadcasting to you.
How could this happen in the most educated country? Why have people lost the ability to think for themselves??? How can one, for example, defend Lukashenka when he is openly lying? Why don't you want to listen to logic and common sense? Why do you refuse to believe your own eyes and ears while defending your idol??? Maybe the sectarian form of being is one of the main reasons for what our Motherland has become? Laziness and sleep of the mind of the vast majority of the Russian people - maybe this is one of the reasons for our problems?
What a fantastic rant!
Artem says that sects/ideologies are what divides the people and leads them astray.
What a novel idea!
Actually, I now see dissident blogs and even Twitter accounts saying the same thing as Comrade Artem and talking about how we don’t need ideology any more and how it is a psy-op being played out on the masses. This is very cool to see and gratifying too on some level. Believe it or not, I am very familiar with this talking point, so familiar with it that I wrote an entire book about it and lots and lots of blog posts since April of last year.
So, speaking as someone who has spent a lot of time and energy trying to elucidate the idea that ideologies are a psy-op pushed by “secular” priesthoods, and who has tried to use his own very meager resources to popularize the idea as well, let me just point out to Comrade Artem that Communism is an ideology too and one also based on idol-worship. In his defense though, he doesn’t promote it much, and seems to just like the aesthetic. I think it’s gross, but that’s whatever at this point.
Also:
Christianity is definitely an ideology as well, by the way.
You can’t say that ideology is a bad idea that is used to bamboozle the masses and then also claim that Christianity is the answer to this problem. I mean, you could, and it might even be a popular position to take, far more popular than my position amongst the dumbass peasant mob, but it is a totally logically inconsistent position to take. I mean, what definition of ideology would NOT include the various dogma and faith-based religions where you just have to believe the right things and harass those who do not believe in those right things to be “saved”? So, sorry, you can’t be anti-ideology and then pro-Communism like Artem or pro-Christianity like others in the dissident blogosphere in the West who have started talking about “spook states” and “peasants” and “no more ideology” on their blogs lately.
But hey, if all you care about is being popular then go for it, I guess. Logic don’t got nothing to do with it.
Consider: If you believe strongly in an ideology or a religion you have already delegated your thinking to priests of one kind or another. In fact, believing in absurdities isn’t really a problem for the faithful of Communism or Christianity for that matter. Actually, it is a prerequisite for running a mass psy-op and for fostering compliance - the more absurd the belief system, the better! Just look at SJWism and Mormonism which are both very successful religious movements. Telling the masses that they have to believe in absurdities like dialectical materialism or an entire army of zombies rising from their graves in Jerusalem in 33AD to be saved or, more accurately, to not be brutally murdered by people who want to “save” them, is what a priest-run society looks and acts like. If you don’t like the FBI or the KGB, then you probably wouldn’t like the Inquisition and Church censors either.
Or maybe you would, only you want to be in charge of the repression instead of on its receiving end.
Which, hey, that is a respectable position to take, so long as you are at least honest among your own followers about it. But why bother trying to explain to the peasant masses that ideologies are a hoax if you’re going to turn around and then try to sell them Communism or Christianity is what I don’t get.
Like … what?
Here, let me share the next logical step in the up and coming “no ideologies allowed” school of political thought that we seem to be converging to: Spook states are theocracies. Ideological-thinking is a perennial illness that societies are subjected to, almost always when a xenocracy takes over. Ideology is promoted by foreigners to be able to better divide and then loot the masses. Think the Catholics or the Communists or the Climate Cult.
But I’ll have more to say about all that another time. And again, all I ask for is a citation on occasion.
If you still think that Wagner accidentally fell out of the sky, you are clearly part of some dumb and dangerous religion. It is undeniable that ZAnon is a cult at this point. Only a dark cult set up to rob you and pit you against your own people could demand that you believe in the “air accident” absurdity. And if you believe it, you belong in the uranium mines not participating in the political conversation because we simply can’t have people so perceptible to cult-thinking running around in our midst.
We need to give ZAnon enthusiasts a pair of magical underwear blessed by a priest of Kolob serving the Yahweh ET, a pickax, a helmet, a shit-bucket and a picture of whoever the savior du jour is at the moment in the election cycle (Trump? Putin? that Argentinian guy?) and seal the shaft behind them.
It is just too exhausting trying to exist in the same blogosphere as these people at this point.
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I have lost 150 subs since last month. I’m getting new subs so it evens out to about -20, but still, not good. I say one little thing about their political saviors and this is how I am punished. Those of you who appreciate what I am saying have your work cut out for you because of how damn unpopular what I am saying is among the larger masses.
Support the mission, damn you. Do you see anyone else out there saying what I am saying? In English?
As to why you are losing subscribers, I think you have been spending too much time ranting about how dumb peasants are and not enough time giving actually interesting and informative analysis. I think it's a classic case of Twitter syndrome. You spend all day looking at dumbass takes until all you can do is complain about how dumb people are online. I don't even follow all these retards so I don't get much satisfaction out of reading your rants against them. That's why I've considered unsubbing, anyway.
Rol...I mean Rurik imo you are totally correct that ideologies are cancerous. You and Anglin have both done outstanding work deconstructing how ideology is used to disarm the critical thinking capacity of the masses. With the Artëm tier Stalinist imo what they basically want is справедливость from top to bottom in society and since Russia has been such a shitshow in all of living memory Stalin was the most recent anchor. That is Stalin was the least bad ruler of the empire since Stalin, and Stalin was actually a mixed bag in that he did some good amongst some very bad. On the other hand everyone else since than has just been bad. And with the traditional Russian "the Tsar is good and the boyers are bad" formulation Stalin really did fight the boyers, and it's true that after the boyers murdered him they dumped their own crimes on him which Stalin predicted with his quote about how after his death a bunch of trash would be thrown on his grave.
With this subject I always need qualify that I'm not actively trying to engage in Stalinist rehabilitation because the problems he addressed belatedly were problems that arose due to a foreign ideological virus he played a starring role in spreading in Russia. However a neutral analysis of Stalin would indicate he went through a learning curve "and began to hate them" or "not appreciate them anymore" and he actively did what Zanons claim Putin has been doing. That is trying to tame and kill his way out of a pit he helped dig in the 1st place. He lost that fight and with that trash dumped on his grave the Artëm tier Stalinists than see the struggle and subsequent post mortem slander fest as some kind of archetype. The valiant king fighting to the death against the rapacious boyers. It's the справедливость they are looking for and projecting. How does one avoid the pitfall of ideology while keeping the archetype? Humans can do without ideology and should in fact, but they can't do without archetypes.
As for the Christianity I'm certainly counted amongst those who are true believers and Dostoevskys observation that if there is no immortality of the human soul than all is permitted is completely irrefutable imo and further more objecting to any mass degeneracy on any terms other than personal dislike is hypocritical and delusional if "good" has no ontological existence of its own. All that exists in this scheme is brute will to power in a pointless, ridiculous universe. As I know you know this has nothing to do with ideology it's a matter of 1st principles that come way before ideology. As Nietzsche observed regarding the murder of God, isn't man compelled to become god just to be worthy of accomplishing the deed? IMO the ideological plagues flow directly from that metaphorical deed of murdering God, when the 1st principles men claim to live by are no longer anchored in God but men you essentially have the masses enslaved. That is men are now living by moral codes they don't actually think have any ontological/divine basis, they are living according to values thought up by other men. Total slave morality and the one thing Nietzsche was absolutely correct about.
Generations of that will domesticate the masses and prepare them to accept anything. Thats why I said I'll always have a soft spot for a guy like Prigozhin, he filled that spot on gods throne in his own nihilistic univers and did not live by any code save his very own. That's why the joker archetype is so damn appealing to the masses. In our modern world where God is dead the masses instinctively recognize that he isn't actually doing anything wrong and infact he is the superman that they are too cowardly to be.
Anyway I know your go to anchor is identity and I don't object to that. My question though would be what makes identity better than Joker/Tony Montana if the "good" doesn't have an ontological anchor beyond the preference of men? How does identity prevent the appearance of a parasitical priest class on its own. You are right about identity imo but that identitys inherent sacredness has to be anchored outside itself beyond the reach of spooks and priests somehow doesn't it?