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One funny aspect of liberals fleeing Russia for the west is that their images of the west are images of years earlier. Now, as they run to the EU/US they are entering a world that is in the process of collapse. They might be content in the short term, but as their funds deplete, and they realize they are considered foreigners by much of the local population, many will probably start longing for home. They might realize they jumped out of the frying pan, into the fire.

I saw another comment that says they should be banned from returning, but I think that might be a bad idea. If they return with a new understanding of the world, they might become a valuable asset for Russia.

If I were younger I would entertain the thought of visiting Russia, to see if moving there would be an option. C'est la vie!

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Since Zogs sanctions mostly effect nobody's like me I need to live part time in Russia and part time in Belarus for financial reasons. Western oligarchs can still do business with Gasprom for billions but i cant transfer anything to a bank in Russia. But anyway as for bedding imo Belarusian made furniture is the gold standard. Fairly cheap considering the quality and just as comfortable as something I would have bought in the US for 4 times the price.

I was watching an interview with German Saduleav who is some guy semi well known with neo-soviet boomers in Russia and his idea is that to advance in the Russia government and society in general it should be mandatory to serve in the Donbass. Like if you want to be in charge of an oblast one day than you need to first serve in the administration somewhere in the warzone under NATO artillery and dodging SBU stay behind assasins. Naturally military service would also be mandatory.

He brought up the British Empire in its hey day as an example. I tend to loath the Brits but his point here was solid, back in the day British nobility really did serve in dangerous places before they could come back and hang out with Lord Rothschild and Benjamin Disraeli. Lots of actual British blue bloods were killed when the Russians savaged the light brigade. British nobles back than were on the sharp end of suppressing the natives in all far flung corners of their empire.

Of course Russia and most other European countries had this sort of expectation in regards to the nobility but it was much more pronounced and visible with the Brits back than. In Russias case for every noble that faithfully served you had 5 conspiring against Tsar, probably with the Brits. Maybe its just because Slavland is my home now so im more neurotic about it but God does it seem like there is something especially malevolent and evil about Russias elite and it goes back to well before the October revolution. The war going hot has just put the spotlight on that and made it apparent that the war is mostly about them vs Putin or the patriots and whoever. Its a war for Russias sole and the hohols and NATO are secondary players.

But yeah, God is absolutely not giving Russia any easy victorys. The liberals\servants of mammon need to be utterly uprooted and flushed down the toilet in totality or Russia is going to lose long term. Theres nowhere left to retreat and its getting down to do or die.

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