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Don Smith's avatar

Granted you have a much better insight and understanding than I do, but I think there's no way in hell they'd arrest Dugin, that would be about the equivalent of arresting Tucker Carlson over here, shit would come apart at the seams. This was a good piece young man.

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Dugin of course is on the right side in the scheme of things but I feel like the line from people like Murz and Artëm that the current power arrangement in Russia has no mechanism for saving itself is correct. The problems are simply too systemic. The mass importation of central Asians and covid hoaxary are the most blatant symptom but stuff like this is also very telling:

𝘑𝘶𝘴𝘵 𝘢 𝘳𝘦𝘧𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘦 𝘦𝘹𝘢𝘮𝘱𝘭𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 "𝘩𝘰𝘯𝘰𝘳 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘰𝘶𝘯𝘵𝘳𝘺", 𝘸𝘩𝘪𝘤𝘩 𝘸𝘦 𝘵𝘢𝘭𝘬𝘦𝘥 𝘢𝘣𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘺𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘥𝘢𝘺. 𝘔𝘰𝘳𝘦 𝘱𝘳𝘦𝘤𝘪𝘴𝘦𝘭𝘺, 𝘢𝘣𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘭𝘢𝘤𝘬 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺 𝘩𝘰𝘯𝘰𝘳 - 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘫𝘶𝘥𝘨𝘦 𝘧𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘱𝘰𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘦𝘮𝘢𝘯 35 𝘵𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘴𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘳𝘶𝘣𝘭𝘦𝘴, 𝘸𝘩𝘰 𝘸𝘢𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘥𝘪𝘨𝘯𝘢𝘯𝘵 𝘢𝘵 𝘴𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢 𝘜𝘬𝘳𝘢𝘪𝘯𝘪𝘢𝘯 𝘕𝘢𝘻𝘪 𝘨𝘳𝘦𝘦𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯 𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘧𝘢𝘤𝘦 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮 𝘢𝘯 𝘢𝘯𝘵𝘪-𝘙𝘶𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘢𝘯 𝘭𝘪𝘣𝘦𝘳𝘢𝘭 .

𝘞𝘦 𝘳𝘦𝘱𝘦𝘢𝘵, 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘈𝘳𝘬𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘨𝘦𝘭𝘴𝘬 𝘫𝘶𝘥𝘨𝘦 𝘕𝘢𝘵𝘢𝘭𝘺𝘢 𝘈𝘭𝘦𝘹𝘢𝘯𝘥𝘳𝘰𝘷𝘯𝘢 𝘊𝘩𝘦𝘣𝘺𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘢 , 𝘭𝘪𝘷𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯 𝘙𝘶𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘢, 𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘙𝘶𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘢𝘯 𝘫𝘶𝘥𝘪𝘤𝘪𝘢𝘭 𝘴𝘺𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘮, 𝘰𝘱𝘦𝘯𝘭𝘺 𝘴𝘶𝘱𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘜𝘬𝘳𝘢𝘪𝘯𝘦, 𝘥𝘦𝘤𝘭𝘢𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘴𝘭𝘰𝘨𝘢𝘯 "𝘎𝘭𝘰𝘳𝘺 𝘵𝘰 𝘜𝘬𝘳𝘢𝘪𝘯𝘦", 𝘬𝘯𝘰𝘸𝘯 𝘴𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘵𝘪𝘮𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘚𝘚 𝘥𝘪𝘷𝘪𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘧 𝘎𝘢𝘭𝘪𝘵𝘤𝘩𝘺𝘯𝘢, 𝘪𝘴 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘕𝘢𝘻𝘪𝘴𝘮 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘩𝘦𝘳. 𝘈𝘯𝘥 𝘰𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘣𝘢𝘴𝘪𝘴, 𝘴𝘩𝘦 𝘢𝘭𝘴𝘰 𝘧𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘥 𝘢 𝘱𝘢𝘵𝘳𝘪𝘰𝘵𝘪𝘤 𝘱𝘰𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘦𝘮𝘢𝘯. 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘰𝘯𝘭𝘺 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘳𝘪𝘦𝘴 𝘰𝘧 "𝘨𝘰 𝘵𝘰 𝘥𝘪𝘦 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘗𝘶𝘵𝘪𝘯, 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘳𝘦𝘥𝘯𝘦𝘤𝘬

https://t.me/riakatysha/26932

Supporters of Ukraine have more rights in Russia than Patriots.

Some pop artist from Lvov displaying the flag of the Russian volunteer corps on the big screen at a concert in the middle of Moscow:

https://t.me/t_artm/841

The same people that took credit for killing Daria. It's literally more risky to get indignant about this stuff than openly support it.

Of course Dugin should post more stuff like the above in the article but asking the members of a traitorous sold out elite to please save themselves for the sake of the country indicates that someone is still on the denial phase of the grief chart. Also lol@dugin rightfully getting mad about the Kremlin policy of replacement migration targeted at Russians while still promoting 3rd worldism.

He is correct of course that repression is the only thing that can save the current order in Russia, but it's so, so obvious now that no repression of the correct people will be allowed. Furthermore for every person that should be repressed and is something like 2-3 patriots will be repressed in turn. That kind of dynamic will only create more human material for Zog to work with inside Russia. Patriots will be teaming up with the liberals again etc. That is if you wanted to make an army of foot soldiers for Zog West in Russia you would do what the Kremlin is doing now, make absolutely everyone in Russia hate you.

Rolo doesn't this seem like a re-run of when the Kremlin created an army of Patriots that teamed up with the liberals and than moved to Ukraine to fight against Russia? Dugin saying "repress me if you need to but at least repress the liberals too" is in theory alright but in practice how is this going to be any different than last time the Kremlin went after the Patriots? Also everyone knows that the Patriots dont have the funding and support networks that the liberals have. That means repression is generally going to hit them way harder. That's not even factoring in that the judicial system is already generally more hostile to Patriots than open pro Ukrainians.

To avoid serious troubles like after Ivan Grozny died Russia needs Patriots but being the poorest, most under resourced and feared people in Russia they are accordingly the only people that the authorities are comfortable abusing. The authorities are very wary of cracking down too hard on the liberals because the liberals have tons of friends in the media, judiciary, and Kremlin itself. The Patriots have nothing like this. And what are the liberals really arguing with the Kremlin about? Well the liberals are basically saying "we agree with you on everything, but you aren't doing it fast and hard enough".

That is the Kremlin isn't surrendering in Ukraine fast and hard enough, they aren't replacing the Slavs in Russia fast and hard enough, they aren't asset stripping Russia fast and hard enough. They aren't repressing Patriots fast and hard enough. If we play the "repress those guys at least and I'll go to jail" strategy than the liberals are in a much stronger position.

This isn't too say Patriots should do nothing, just don't ever expect anything good from the current authorities, expect massive instability and troubles, and just try and get your message and plans out. This made me smile a little:

https://t.me/rusjuche/5898?single

The другая Россия guys doing a banner drop in Peter saying "fight the hohols not Patriots". Not that I would ever expect the Kremlin to do that and neither should anyone else, but starting a conversation about why is useful.

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