Bloomberg: The Peace Deal With Russia is Almost Ready
Earth to Zorlochs, time to face reality!
Kremlin-aligned Russian news is reporting and confirming Western media reporting about secret talks. Read along with me, you will find many familiar talking points.
The Russian authorities, through unofficial channels, made it clear to the US leadership that they are ready for dialogue on a peaceful resolution of the conflict in Ukraine, including, possibly, a discussion of future security measures for Kiev, Bloomberg reports , citing its own sources close to the Kremlin. Press Secretary of the Russian President Dmitry Peskov told the agency that “Russia was, is and will be open to negotiations on a settlement in Ukraine, however, it is determined to continue the military operation until its goals are achieved.”
What goals? De-militariziation and de-nazification?
Moscow has released Nazis from captivity in exchange for Putin’s buddies who then returned to the frontlines and the FSB actually funded and created at least some of the Nazi groups in the Donbass now, just FYI, and there are more weapons and soldiers in Ukraine now than ever.
So, these two “goals” are unachievable.
Agency sources said that the “signals” from Moscow were received by Washington last month through an unnamed intermediary. Bloomberg's interlocutors note that with a high degree of probability Russia may allow the possibility of abandoning the demand for a neutral status of Ukraine and the demand for Kiev not to join NATO, but will insist on recognizing the territories that are now controlled by Russian troops (we are talking about the DPR, LPR, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions). Also, the Russian Federation is not ready to discuss the status of Crimea in any way.
This is the best case scenario. But it doesn’t mean that we will get it.
If I were going into surrender negotiations, I’d start with maximalist demands as well before scaling them down. There is no guarantee that Russia will be able to hold on to the gains that they made about two years ago. They have been steadily losing these gains since and taking almost as many casualties as they inflict. Either way, 80+% of Ukraine and Ukrainians are lost to Russia for the foreseeable century thanks to the dunces or the traitors running the Kremlin who did everything they could to stifle pro-Russian sentiment in Ukraine.
Z-shills will hand-wave this away by claiming that all Ukrainians hated Russia anyway so who cares, they aren’t brothers, they all deserve death. This is why Ukrainians overwhelmingly voted for a peace candidate promising them an end to the war prior to the SMO, right? This is why Moscow initially praised Zelensky and hailed him as a man that they could work with after this election, right?
Why does ZAnon pretend that this never happened? Zelensky was literally part of the same network of Russian-speaking eastern-Ukraine oligarchs (a round-about way of saying “Jews”) who Moscow funded for years in Ukraine against Kiev-based candidates. Donbass and Dniepropetrovsk were all solid Russian-speaking Yanukovich-voting areas run by Moscow’s esteemed Chabad friends, not Banderaites.
So, what happened? Did the monster break loose?
Why do Putin and all top officials call Ukraine “a brotherly, fraternal nation” and why do most Russian-speaking Z-propagandists claim to this day that these are brothers yearning for liberation from the yoke of Kiev?
Are they liars? Or is it 5D deception?
Martyanov aka “That Stupid Fat Fuck With A Blog" believes Putin is actually committing genocide in Ukraine and that this is a good thing! “Kill them all, let Yahweh sort out his own!” Who is sabotaging Russia more, spittle-spitting lunatics like Martyanov or “traitors” like Strelkov?
This insane rhetoric, copied word for word from NATO propaganda I might add, is considered a good look for the Z-cause by some, apparently.
But outside of Church, in reality that is, you can’t maintain such absurd positions forever.
If Ukrainians are not brother-slavs caught in the grip of an occupation government, then this isn’t a “liberation” campaign, now is it? And if they are all Nazis as some unhinged ZAnonners now claim, then they all have to be killed right? After all, AntiFa values state that the only good Nazi is a dead one. And a Nazi is anyone that the Kremlin chooses to shoot or arrest, remember. So, that’s why a war of genocide attrition is a good thing! That’s what they’ve been saying this talking point now with increasing frequency.
Gone are the days when the bloodshed among brotheres would be lamented; now it is welcomed! Encouraged even! By people who aren’t even living in the countries involved in the conflict! Who don’t have family involved in the conflict! Who have fat hog wives who divorced them and forced them to take to the internet to make everyone as miserable as they are!
No, seriously.
Try to walk through the logic of what these pro-attrition people are spouting. It makes literally zero sense even according to their own retarded parameters. There is nothing but emotion and 5D gibberish there. This is what religion is — vaginal hysteria and 5D speculation.
This is a death cult to some Z-based god, probably Zorloch or Zardoz or something at this point.
We need to fund an investigation to figure out who these death-cultists are worshipping.
The US National Security Council told the agency that they had no information about such “signals” from the Russian side. “We are not aware of the described changes in Russia’s position. Ukraine itself will decide whether, when and how to negotiate with Russia,” National Security Council spokeswoman Adrienne Watson said in a conversation with Bloomberg.
It is possible that some factions want to continue the blood-letting while others are willing to allow Moscow to kiss the ring again.
Russian authorities have repeatedly stated their readiness to resume negotiations with Ukraine on a peaceful settlement. So, on January 15, the press secretary of the Russian President Dmitry Peskov said that Moscow stands for a peaceful resolution to the conflict. The head of the faction of the pro-presidential Servant of the People party in the Verkhovna Rada, David Arakhamia, reported in November 2023 that the entire political and military leadership of Ukraine is in favor of continuing hostilities with Russia due to a poor negotiating position. He also referred to the decree of Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky, which directly prohibits any negotiations with the Russian Federation while Vladimir Putin is its president.
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that Russia is ready for negotiations with Ukraine and resolving the conflict diplomatically, but not with the goal of “preserving representatives of the Ukrainian government in their posts.” He also rejected Vladimir Zelensky’s “peace formula” proposed by Kiev as the basis for the negotiation process. Mr. Lavrov called the formula itself “unviable” and criticized the meeting to resolve the conflict in Ukraine, held on January 14 in Davos, Switzerland.
Speaking of space monsters, they gathered in Davos to discuss what to do with Ukraine. This was also reported on and is worth touching on here:
Representatives of more than 80 states discussed scenarios for resolving the Ukrainian crisis in Switzerland
The World Economic Forum (WEF) in Davos, Switzerland, started with a discussion of ways to resolve the Russian-Ukrainian conflict. In anticipation of numerous sessions, one of which is scheduled to be addressed by Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky on January 16, the 4th meeting of national security advisers from more than 80 states on the “peace formula” proposed by Kiev took place on Sunday. As Swiss Foreign Minister Ignazio Cassis explained, the main task of such discussions is to prepare for dialogue with Russia, without which “there will be no peace.” No one can say when Moscow and Kyiv will be able to sit down at the negotiating table, but the West is confident that the more countries are involved in discussing scenarios for ending hostilities, the closer the peaceful outcome.
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However, in Moscow the words of the Swiss politician did not arouse much enthusiasm. According to the official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry Maria Zakharova, “there is no Zelensky peace formula.” “This is another staging, the purpose of which is to lure as many countries as possible under the guise of the peace process in order to create the appearance of anti-Russian consolidation,” she said, assuring that Zelensky’s “curators” do not want negotiations.
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Without a clear understanding of what strategy Kyiv is going to adhere to during the hostilities, Washington is apparently not ready to outline specific parameters for further support. Republicans in the US Congress, in whose hands the prospects for American military assistance to Ukraine are now completely in their hands, are also demanding a “victory plan” from Kyiv. As Bloomberg wrote , the Americans consider a breakthrough by the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the coming months to be unlikely, and therefore want to see a plan to maintain current positions, after which a transition to a new counter-offensive is possible. Based on this, Ignazio Cassis’s words about Russia’s involvement in the peace process are not a matter of the near future, but Andrei Ermak’s statements about “victory” are probably a reference to another attempt to change the situation on the battlefield, and only then move on to negotiations. Apparently, the plan for 2023 was the same.
OK, so there is a lot of Newspeak to sift through whenever we analyze officialese.
They speak in this way to weed out the peasants and make it so that only clever insiders who understand the lingo or who can pay a team of wonks to do it for them can understand the real story. In other words, to make you dependent on the interpretation of experts/priests.
In short: NATO + Kiev thinks that they can make the situation even better for themselves before going in for negotiations. After all, what do they have to lose? Time is on their side. Contrary to what you have been told, NATO likes spending money on weapons and ammo. That is money taken from taxpayers and given to powerful politicians and arms manufacturers. Furthermore, there is exactly zero chances of Russia every invading the West. So what difference do depleted stores make? This isn’t a real showdown with Russia, it is just a proxy war.
The Zorgbloggers make it seem like NATO is really hurting in Ukraine, but they’re not at all. This is just Slavs killing Slavs, neither of whom are in NATO.
The only way that they can justify the civil war is to claim that the Ukrainians are just too far gone and have to be exterminated. Using this logic, Germans and French and all the other nations that are part of NATO need to be exterminated as well.
What about the Turks, eh? Let’s start with the Turks in Crimea and Tatarstan then! Ah, but that smacks of Nazi-speak because non-capital dwelling Greek-descended “Turks” are very swarthy and one can only call for the extermination of pale people nowadays while claiming the moral high ground. But if the Ukrainians are such Zorlochs, why does Moscow continue selling them gas and other products?
Why are their politicians off-limits? Their bridges? Supply depots?
Anyone?
And now just think: why should NATO bend over backwards for peace? What are they even losing from this conflict? The “Global South” will think they’re meanies for pursuing it?
Hello, Earth to Z-erglings, do you know nothing about this planet? Allow me to educate you then; half these “Global Swarth” countries are just fake drug-smuggling operations that developed governments by accident or they are run by feral warlords who can be bought by the largest bidder. Global morality levels are totally useless as an analysis tool on planet earth. Weak countries don’t align with moral superpowers, they align with regular superpowers.
Maybe it is different where you hail from though, IDK.
But we are discussing earth matters here.
In theory anyways.
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Actually, we are really just debating religion, not who will win the trench war in Donbass, but few seem to understand that.
Liking the Calvin and Hobbes theme today
Thanks for not inflicting "the talk" upon us, it makes the article actually readable.
Minor nitpick, you say the Russians lose as many men as the Ukrainians but it seems an exaggeration. Of course I don't have the real numbers, but looking at both propaganda material it seems the Russians are in a better shape than the Ukrainians.
While I don't disagree with you on the whole situation, I'll make a definitive judgement once the not-war has ended. My benchmark: if the Russians don't get Kharkov and a land bridge to Transnistria (thus including Odessa) then it will definitively be a total defeat.
There's too much disinfo nowadays, you can't judge by what is said or not said or interpretations but on the cold hard facts on the ground.