"Complaining about Cromwell or Hobbes now is like giving a lecture about cutting carbs and controlling one’s blood sugar to someone who is bleeding out on the sidewalk from a knife wound."
There's a long "tradition" on the Right of that kind of thing. The problem is "Gnosticism" (Vogelin) or nominalism (Weaver) or some other long ago intellectual debate, which makes the speaker sound like an "intellectual" while promoting his favorite hobby horse and essentially counseling doing nothing. Confederacy of Dunces should have shamed people out of this kind of thing; Ignatius Reilly, who goes to war against the modern world because of its lack of "theology and geometry" , lives on at places like Arktos, churning out volumes of word salad from Dugin and Evola. If we have to wait for the right interpretation of Heidegger's late work before learning what to do, we're doomed.
That Inspector Norf sketch illustrates the truth in the Biblical statement about casting pearls before swine.
Who made Dugin a modern sage or icon? He seems to be invoked in order to enable modern Americans to feel superior to bearded-weirdy Russians speaking gibberish.
The RWA guys had a recent long chat with Larry Johnson, who regaled his Russian audience with tales of the Completely Incompetent Agency. Amity between the two nations was reinforced by their mutual contempt for that extinct species, the British.
Here's a close approximation to a definition of liberalism, insofar as I'm concerned: "We hold these truths to be sacred and undeniable, that all men are created equal and independent; that from that equal creation they derive in rights inherent and inalienables, among which are the preservation of life, and liberty and the pursuit of happiness; that to secure these ends, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government shall become destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing it's powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes: and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. but when a long train of abuses and usurpations, begun at a distinguished period, and pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to subject them to arbitrary power, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security." https://www.let.rug.nl/usa/documents/1776-1785/jeffersons-draft-of-the-declaration-of-independence.php
Dugin opposes this, he sees ethnic nations as having primacy over the individual - he's not a believer in Natural Rights. He would be closer to a Monarchist, and would claim the (divine?) right to rule over the entirety of that ethnic group, much as the pre-WWII Emperor of Japan had the divine right to rule over the Japanese ethnicity, wherever it might be.
As to fascism, so is Russia, under Putin's government, except much more so. Dugin was a part of Pamyat - and Putin tagged along. Putin's government is classically fascist. To a greater or lesser extent, so is Zelenskyy's. As for the US government being "neo-Nazi", it's nowhere close to that - just compare and contrast: https://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/25points.htm Putin's government comes a lot closer, and if Dugin's prescriptions were followed, it would be very close.
The class which runs the US isn't a class which you can buy your way into, you're born into it. It doesn't matter how much money Trump has, he's still an outsider - and I've heard about him since the late 1970s. And so on. And it doesn't include any Jews, they have their own parallel "high society", clubs, and the like. This isn't to say that they don't do quite well for themselves, because they do, but there are limits.
Well, Catholicism led to Protestantism, so around and around we go. This is the flaw in the Jones/Fuentes idea that "We need to return to Catholicism" or in general, Christianity. As Marx said in his "Critique of the Gotha Program," if we merely redistribute the money, we'll wind up in the same place: "And the same shit will start over."
The usual cope is "The Church was corrupted" but that just restates the problem: if the Church can't save itself, how can it save our society?
"If the rule you followed brought you to this place, of what use was the rule?" -- Anton Chighur
A precision. William of Okham is the father of nominalism and predates Reformation by a century. Nominalism quickly became one of the cornerstones of English philosophy. It is still relevant today in discussions on modern subatomic energy physics.
A much more important point. In the 18th century the principle of pleasure arose after more than a millenium of hibernation: the idea that man's goal in life is to avoid pain and seek pleasure has been an incredible source of moral corruption. And like the idea that liberty is the absence of constraints, it is irresistible. I do not know of any persuasive arguments against either outside of Christian or nationalist premisses. Their alliance works so well.
Rurik, could you invite Jon Bjerknes to your podcast? I saw him on many obsucre shows, besides , you 70 agree on the agenda I assume. He is blacklisted everywhere I am sure he would be glad. Do contact him on twitter, please.
I too am curious about Bjerknes's take on Jewish eschatology, but since his falling out w/ Adam Green he hasn't had much visibility. He doesn't get along w/ many people. He seems to be a typically prickly Jewish dissident: I can criticize them because I know what I'm talking about. You are an ignorant goy. Drop dead.
The Constitution and tolerance and firm handshakes and reasonable debate and tax cuts won’t save you from the gang of brown psychos and their shtetl slave-masters!
Great stuff -thanks. Skimmer comment: How many languages does the guy speak - Wiki says 5 (+ Russian) - I thought it was many more. But I was surprised to hear his somewhat clumsy Russian-accented English - his daughter, Dayra, spoke perfectly fluent, unaccented English. Skimming to the end, I thought he had a genuine, close affiliation with the Russian Orthodox Church? - so, not responding to FSB fear - somewhat the same with "communism" - in his view, a deeply traumatic wrong turn for Russia and ultimately an imposition of a foreign ideology (err.... chosen ideology - not sure how explicit he has become in that connection;) - Communisim = Globalism 1 point oh.
Here is some more Dugin in English - daughter then father
Here's Dugin reading Crowley at a Russian celebration of AC's birthday. I can't find the longer version that has trannies on spinning crucifixes and other "post modern" artsy crap. https://youtu.be/l_PcWPlgzgw?si=kgN-1kWr2CBniU7j
Feel free to update the BitChute link (in "ANGLO CONSPIRACY HERE") for Inspector Norf's 3 channels have apparently been tragically purged this very month.
Representative democracy has failed the people, the Citizens, the sapient human beings from whom the authority for Government actually springs.
And because there is nothing more important to us and our sacred posterity than our national sovereignty, We, The Citizens, must now stand up and inform our representatives that they, having broken their Oaths and failed in their Duty to the office in which they were entrusted, are in Breach of the contract and must now Vacate the building.
This is easier said than done and we must also put into place a Fourth Branch of Government that will empower the Citizens to directly participate in “promoting the general welfare, and providing for the common defense.”
We, The Citizens, are sapient human beings made by God and in the image of God, and we realize that with God all good things are possible.
Citizenship, true citizenship, is not about writing letters to government officials or voting some good person into office.
Citizenship is about the Ratification or Annulment of each line of every law, rule, regulation and supreme court decision on the books or that is on the docket waiting to be turned into law, policy and taxes.
With this new and improved understanding of government of the people, by the people and for the people we will also be able to accommodate citizen proposals for program and infrastructure maintenance and improvements.
Nothing short of this is going to ameliorate the situation for the body politic.
"Complaining about Cromwell or Hobbes now is like giving a lecture about cutting carbs and controlling one’s blood sugar to someone who is bleeding out on the sidewalk from a knife wound."
There's a long "tradition" on the Right of that kind of thing. The problem is "Gnosticism" (Vogelin) or nominalism (Weaver) or some other long ago intellectual debate, which makes the speaker sound like an "intellectual" while promoting his favorite hobby horse and essentially counseling doing nothing. Confederacy of Dunces should have shamed people out of this kind of thing; Ignatius Reilly, who goes to war against the modern world because of its lack of "theology and geometry" , lives on at places like Arktos, churning out volumes of word salad from Dugin and Evola. If we have to wait for the right interpretation of Heidegger's late work before learning what to do, we're doomed.
That Inspector Norf sketch illustrates the truth in the Biblical statement about casting pearls before swine.
Who made Dugin a modern sage or icon? He seems to be invoked in order to enable modern Americans to feel superior to bearded-weirdy Russians speaking gibberish.
The RWA guys had a recent long chat with Larry Johnson, who regaled his Russian audience with tales of the Completely Incompetent Agency. Amity between the two nations was reinforced by their mutual contempt for that extinct species, the British.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NbMrIzT8J0
Of course no one was so impolite as to mention the current Masters of the Universe.
Thanks, Rurik. If I think were I stood a year ago (consuming Complicatius as a gospel), there is still hope, even for a boomer like me. Carry on.
I doubt they’d do an interview about the CIA and Rockefellers, that would explain a of modern America.
NORF FC NORF FC
SOUF!
NORF!
*chucks beer*
*Whips out blade*
*bangs belly menacingly*
*screams*
'co'me on'then piggy, let's fucking dance!'
*lunges in with blade*
Thanks for the brillant thoughts.
Here's a close approximation to a definition of liberalism, insofar as I'm concerned: "We hold these truths to be sacred and undeniable, that all men are created equal and independent; that from that equal creation they derive in rights inherent and inalienables, among which are the preservation of life, and liberty and the pursuit of happiness; that to secure these ends, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government shall become destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing it's powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes: and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. but when a long train of abuses and usurpations, begun at a distinguished period, and pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to subject them to arbitrary power, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security." https://www.let.rug.nl/usa/documents/1776-1785/jeffersons-draft-of-the-declaration-of-independence.php
Dugin opposes this, he sees ethnic nations as having primacy over the individual - he's not a believer in Natural Rights. He would be closer to a Monarchist, and would claim the (divine?) right to rule over the entirety of that ethnic group, much as the pre-WWII Emperor of Japan had the divine right to rule over the Japanese ethnicity, wherever it might be.
The United States has had a fascist government since FDR in the 1930s, see https://voluntarysociety.org/conditioning/misc/peoplespottage.html
The US is a Fascist-neo-Nazi state? that is news to me! thanks for the update.
As to fascism, so is Russia, under Putin's government, except much more so. Dugin was a part of Pamyat - and Putin tagged along. Putin's government is classically fascist. To a greater or lesser extent, so is Zelenskyy's. As for the US government being "neo-Nazi", it's nowhere close to that - just compare and contrast: https://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/25points.htm Putin's government comes a lot closer, and if Dugin's prescriptions were followed, it would be very close.
So when the Jews run a country that means it is a fascist state?
The class which runs the US isn't a class which you can buy your way into, you're born into it. It doesn't matter how much money Trump has, he's still an outsider - and I've heard about him since the late 1970s. And so on. And it doesn't include any Jews, they have their own parallel "high society", clubs, and the like. This isn't to say that they don't do quite well for themselves, because they do, but there are limits.
right, but the Jews do run America and Ukraine and Russia.
So, one question: if Protestantism led us to capitalism, where does Catholicism and Orthodoxy lead?
In a perfect world, how would we all revert back to living within our tribes? And where would the mulattos reside?
they lead to Communism.
The NT is Communism, the OT is Capitalism.
we can give the mulattos an island or two
How about Australia? It's too hot to sustain white culture.
Well, Catholicism led to Protestantism, so around and around we go. This is the flaw in the Jones/Fuentes idea that "We need to return to Catholicism" or in general, Christianity. As Marx said in his "Critique of the Gotha Program," if we merely redistribute the money, we'll wind up in the same place: "And the same shit will start over."
The usual cope is "The Church was corrupted" but that just restates the problem: if the Church can't save itself, how can it save our society?
"If the rule you followed brought you to this place, of what use was the rule?" -- Anton Chighur
Hi Rurik,
A precision. William of Okham is the father of nominalism and predates Reformation by a century. Nominalism quickly became one of the cornerstones of English philosophy. It is still relevant today in discussions on modern subatomic energy physics.
A much more important point. In the 18th century the principle of pleasure arose after more than a millenium of hibernation: the idea that man's goal in life is to avoid pain and seek pleasure has been an incredible source of moral corruption. And like the idea that liberty is the absence of constraints, it is irresistible. I do not know of any persuasive arguments against either outside of Christian or nationalist premisses. Their alliance works so well.
I see nominalism in Aquinas though.
Rurik, could you invite Jon Bjerknes to your podcast? I saw him on many obsucre shows, besides , you 70 agree on the agenda I assume. He is blacklisted everywhere I am sure he would be glad. Do contact him on twitter, please.
I am starting to read his book Beware the world to come, it is very good
i think he doesnt like me sadly
I too am curious about Bjerknes's take on Jewish eschatology, but since his falling out w/ Adam Green he hasn't had much visibility. He doesn't get along w/ many people. He seems to be a typically prickly Jewish dissident: I can criticize them because I know what I'm talking about. You are an ignorant goy. Drop dead.
Well Done Rurik. I especially liked:
Aquinas-Aristotle-Augustine deception.
and
The Constitution and tolerance and firm handshakes and reasonable debate and tax cuts won’t save you from the gang of brown psychos and their shtetl slave-masters!
Great stuff -thanks. Skimmer comment: How many languages does the guy speak - Wiki says 5 (+ Russian) - I thought it was many more. But I was surprised to hear his somewhat clumsy Russian-accented English - his daughter, Dayra, spoke perfectly fluent, unaccented English. Skimming to the end, I thought he had a genuine, close affiliation with the Russian Orthodox Church? - so, not responding to FSB fear - somewhat the same with "communism" - in his view, a deeply traumatic wrong turn for Russia and ultimately an imposition of a foreign ideology (err.... chosen ideology - not sure how explicit he has become in that connection;) - Communisim = Globalism 1 point oh.
Here is some more Dugin in English - daughter then father
https://www.geopolitika.ru/en/article/darya-platonova-war-ukraine-clash-globalist-and-eurasian-civilizations
https://www.thepostil.com/war-and-the-future-of-russia/
Early Dugin was anti-Christian. He joined the Old Believers like 7 years? ago as he started to try and go more mainstream.
Here's Dugin reading Crowley at a Russian celebration of AC's birthday. I can't find the longer version that has trannies on spinning crucifixes and other "post modern" artsy crap. https://youtu.be/l_PcWPlgzgw?si=kgN-1kWr2CBniU7j
I posted this in an article before yeah
Rurik is like a slav Andrew Anglin jacked up on IQ steroids
Feel free to update the BitChute link (in "ANGLO CONSPIRACY HERE") for Inspector Norf's 3 channels have apparently been tragically purged this very month.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/s8uk4zzgBUtC/
It is obvious to everyone....
Representative democracy has failed the people, the Citizens, the sapient human beings from whom the authority for Government actually springs.
And because there is nothing more important to us and our sacred posterity than our national sovereignty, We, The Citizens, must now stand up and inform our representatives that they, having broken their Oaths and failed in their Duty to the office in which they were entrusted, are in Breach of the contract and must now Vacate the building.
This is easier said than done and we must also put into place a Fourth Branch of Government that will empower the Citizens to directly participate in “promoting the general welfare, and providing for the common defense.”
We, The Citizens, are sapient human beings made by God and in the image of God, and we realize that with God all good things are possible.
Citizenship, true citizenship, is not about writing letters to government officials or voting some good person into office.
Citizenship is about the Ratification or Annulment of each line of every law, rule, regulation and supreme court decision on the books or that is on the docket waiting to be turned into law, policy and taxes.
With this new and improved understanding of government of the people, by the people and for the people we will also be able to accommodate citizen proposals for program and infrastructure maintenance and improvements.
Nothing short of this is going to ameliorate the situation for the body politic.
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As Ukraine 🇺🇦 is left fending for itself while Western leaders fear “escalation,” we are accelerating towards a global war.
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I think Mr. Sarmat will have something to say about this.