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Dis Nuz Sack's avatar

I also shared your frustration when talking to the Trump cultists. I was a huge fan in 2016, donated, bet on him, max supported and was as fervent a fan as possible. I was even hugely forgiving in the first couple years until the grift and his (((advisors))) became so utterly ridiculous i couldn't hide it anymore. Yet it was impossible to even slightly convince my Trump friends this was a con.

The only consolation is that on a personal level, even to this day, Trump fans are still vastly preferable people to hang out with vice liberals.

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Al DuClur's avatar

There is no winning over ardent partisan normies but I find I can nudge people towards sanity and I think that is useful.

This only works on people who basically get that the government and media are liars and see through more than one hoax.

There are plenty of middle of the road normies who allow themselves to get that one narrative is a hoax. This allows them to proudly think they are an independent thinker but it is just a cope. They are ardent believers in all the other hoaxes and do not want to be seen as a bad person by the establishment left.

A much smaller number see through two hoaxes. They default to first believing in the new thing but can be made to see it as just another hoax. Over time they are able to see more clearly what is going on. Some will even grapple with the Torah Question but cannot comfortably embrace it.

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