OK, so, within a day of the attempted assassination of Alexander Dugin, we have the following facts given to us by the FSB. The assassin was a Ukrainian death-harpy - Natalya Pavlovna Vovk She crossed into Russia on July 23 with her daughter She rented an apartment in Dugin’s building
It has startled me in the last couple of years to realize how conscious American jews are of who is Russian and who is not, and how many jews there are who despise Russians. I didn’t realize how important it is to all of them.
They always have, mostly sponsored by the FBI and CIA. I can't tell how many people in the US have even heard of the Dugin incident since the general public has largely stopped caring about the Ukraine situation. The current thing now is the Trump-FBI thing which hopefully helps plant the idea in peoples' heads that the US deep state will break all rules and completely destroy (or kill) you if they want with complete impunity. Is there any confirmation that this assassin is a US asset?
Using the daughter as cover likely had the FSB thinking she was just a spy, not an assassin, so they wanted to find her contacts and networks.
Every country has traitors, so it isn't impossible that she had assistance. Given past behavior, she mostly likely had NATO assistance, though. Azov is a NSTO tool. Kiev doesn't control it.
How many terrorist attacks has the USA prevented? Any at all?
Russia is a massive country.
The terrorist was a younger female traveling with a ten year old child. Does not fit the terrorist profile.
In the USA, you are, depending on the severity of how deeply you expose the US criminal cartel, 1) ignored, 2) censored, 3) slandered and then litigated - destroyed financially. 5) imprisoned as a traitor (Julian Asange) and if the CIA can get away with it, 6) you are killed.
"....unlikely that she will be extradited. She may, however, be killed or disappeared ..." - you may have missed one element of the logical space here: her "killing" could be faked - that would be the default assumption if there is a "shoot out" involving Estonia security personnel and the fugitive. But, backing away a step, who the fugitive is, whether he or she is actually in Estonia (and, I suppose, whether there IS actually an "Estonia") should be considered open questions. It's complicated.
Mark Wauck has an interesting take. UK apparently has very close ties with Estonia. Wheels greased to help her escape into Estonia. UK behind this?
Consider, too, the military official who warned UK citizens to prepare for hot war just one day before Dugina's murder, leads me to wonder...was UK trying to instigate an attack or official escalation into war?
Sorry if my previous comment was a bit insensitive to the seriousness of the situation. I was just pointing out in a lighthearted way to what ridiculous lengths the Ukrainian intelligence services will go to deflect the blame of their misdeeds onto someone else. Oil refineries, ammunition depot's and SUV's don't blow up because of a Molotov cocktail thrown by some bone head. Yes, there may be a rag-tag group of ideologically brainwashed Russian nationals and certainly no shortage of Ukranian ultra-nationalists doing the foot work, but the means to perform the dirty work is being handed to them on a platter. If the world only knew. Hopefully one day enough people will. Btw, bringing her daughter was a nice touch. But there's no way in Hell they didn't have help getting out.
This report tells it slightly differently. The Ukrainian woman moves into Dugina's building and then follows her to the speaking event accompanied by her 12 year old daughter. They plant the bomb and then escape to Estonia. So who's the intended target? Father or daughter? Which car is the bomb attached to? Not making sense to me.
Aspects remind me of 9/11. For Ukraine, why go after a symbolic target? You'll only get retaliation and public opinion against you for your efforts. Unless that's what was intended.
As Rolo points out access into and out of Russia for Ukrainians would be very difficult. Are this lady and her daughter patsies? Is an element of FSB involved? Were they just lax or colluding?
The NRA is taking responsibility for her assassination. You know, the Russian nationalist partisan saboteurs who get their Intel and explosives from their local hardware store. It's obvious they have infiltrated deeply into the ranks of the Russian military because how else would you explain the Russian military lobbing artillery shells dangerously close on a Ukrainian nuclear power plant occupied by the RUSSIAN MILITARY? 😂
Radical anarchists under some beardo called Ponomarev might be behind the assassination:
"..The organization of terrorist guerrilla in Russia, with which Ponomarev allegedly interacts, is likely mythical and only exists in the social media.
However, this does not exclude the fact that the assassination of Daria Dugina corresponds to the interests of Russian radicals who have received asylum abroad. ...
It is quite possible that Russian “activists” interacted in many ways with the Ukrainian special services in order to organize the attack. Russian leftists and anarchists could enlist the support of Ukrainian agents embedded in Russia, who provided technical support and carried out the assassination. It is also possible that the operation was carried out without the consent of the supreme leadership of Ukraine.
Daria Dugina was a public person. At the same time, she was little known to the broad Russian public. The same assessment is partially relevant to her father. Dugin’s name is well known only to the active patriotic part of Russian society. Dugin has not been given the opportunity to spread his ideas through the state media lately. He participated in public discussions years ago, and then he disappeared from the Russian media. It’s hard to remember when Russian political talk shows invited Dugin to the TV broadcast. Today, the main channels for the dissemination of his patriotic ideas are Internet platforms, which are not widely popular. He did not hold any political positions. One could not find any of his photos with Vladimir Putin.[so what's the point of killing him]...
The assassination of Daria Dugina has far-reaching consequences, which are necessary for radical opposition and are of little benefit to the Kiev regime. ...
At the same time, Daria’s murder is beneficial for Russian ultra-liberal forces in Russia and abroad. The response measures of the Russian government will lead to the marginalization of the political opposition, and the further radicalization of individuals and cells who remained on the territory of the country. Fugitive radicals are trying to initiate processes similar to those that took place in Russia in the early 20th century. They are trying to provoke social and political cases that will lead to the emergence of a terrorist movement ...
From the point of view of modern radicals, such a policy coordinated from abroad will create a revolutionary moment in Russia....
In their turn, Russian radical cells are awaiting for the medium and long-term consequences. In addition to the marginalization and radicalization of the opposition forces, they got the opportunity to demonstrate the results of their subversive activities to the US and British authorities and enlist their support in the long struggle for the destruction of the Russian nationhood.
The analysis of the short-term and long-term interests of different parties suggests that the Kiev regime is not the only one who should be suspected of the assassination of Daria Dugina. The Russian services have managed to identify the killer, but Moscow is yet to reveal the paymasters, organizers and accomplices."
I've enjoyed your writing, and will continue to do so, not least because you're better informed on your topic than I am (on your topic).
Please pardon my naivete in wondering: Were you being hyperbolic in saying NATO's "...stated objective is the killing of every single Russian", and if not, what's the basis for saying it?
I ask because, not as a NATO apologist or even follower, just a simple US citizen, I was quite literally taken aback when I read it.
I'm not "NATO", remember, but I know dozens of Russians and don't have, nor do I know a single person who has anything bad to say about the Russian people, God forbid wishing any of them dead.
As for Dugin, a week ago I'd never heard of him, but was briefly made aware of him via Lex Fridman's podcast with Jordan Peterson the other day. It's very interesting to have now had your take on him and his place in the story.
Thank you for this analysis. Can I gently chide you for the comment about the "old man"... as someone who hopes to be spared to see 60 (Mr Dugins age) later this year 😉. I hope he is spared for many more, regardless of his opinions, because to threaten people for their opinions/beliefs is abject villainy. Sadly there is much evil in the world.
It has startled me in the last couple of years to realize how conscious American jews are of who is Russian and who is not, and how many jews there are who despise Russians. I didn’t realize how important it is to all of them.
> The West and its allies aid and abet terrorism
They always have, mostly sponsored by the FBI and CIA. I can't tell how many people in the US have even heard of the Dugin incident since the general public has largely stopped caring about the Ukraine situation. The current thing now is the Trump-FBI thing which hopefully helps plant the idea in peoples' heads that the US deep state will break all rules and completely destroy (or kill) you if they want with complete impunity. Is there any confirmation that this assassin is a US asset?
Using the daughter as cover likely had the FSB thinking she was just a spy, not an assassin, so they wanted to find her contacts and networks.
Every country has traitors, so it isn't impossible that she had assistance. Given past behavior, she mostly likely had NATO assistance, though. Azov is a NSTO tool. Kiev doesn't control it.
How many terrorist attacks has the USA prevented? Any at all?
Russia is a massive country.
The terrorist was a younger female traveling with a ten year old child. Does not fit the terrorist profile.
In the USA, you are, depending on the severity of how deeply you expose the US criminal cartel, 1) ignored, 2) censored, 3) slandered and then litigated - destroyed financially. 5) imprisoned as a traitor (Julian Asange) and if the CIA can get away with it, 6) you are killed.
"....unlikely that she will be extradited. She may, however, be killed or disappeared ..." - you may have missed one element of the logical space here: her "killing" could be faked - that would be the default assumption if there is a "shoot out" involving Estonia security personnel and the fugitive. But, backing away a step, who the fugitive is, whether he or she is actually in Estonia (and, I suppose, whether there IS actually an "Estonia") should be considered open questions. It's complicated.
Mark Wauck has an interesting take. UK apparently has very close ties with Estonia. Wheels greased to help her escape into Estonia. UK behind this?
Consider, too, the military official who warned UK citizens to prepare for hot war just one day before Dugina's murder, leads me to wonder...was UK trying to instigate an attack or official escalation into war?
Sorry if my previous comment was a bit insensitive to the seriousness of the situation. I was just pointing out in a lighthearted way to what ridiculous lengths the Ukrainian intelligence services will go to deflect the blame of their misdeeds onto someone else. Oil refineries, ammunition depot's and SUV's don't blow up because of a Molotov cocktail thrown by some bone head. Yes, there may be a rag-tag group of ideologically brainwashed Russian nationals and certainly no shortage of Ukranian ultra-nationalists doing the foot work, but the means to perform the dirty work is being handed to them on a platter. If the world only knew. Hopefully one day enough people will. Btw, bringing her daughter was a nice touch. But there's no way in Hell they didn't have help getting out.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russian-fsb-identifies-alleged-dugina-assassin
This report tells it slightly differently. The Ukrainian woman moves into Dugina's building and then follows her to the speaking event accompanied by her 12 year old daughter. They plant the bomb and then escape to Estonia. So who's the intended target? Father or daughter? Which car is the bomb attached to? Not making sense to me.
Aspects remind me of 9/11. For Ukraine, why go after a symbolic target? You'll only get retaliation and public opinion against you for your efforts. Unless that's what was intended.
As Rolo points out access into and out of Russia for Ukrainians would be very difficult. Are this lady and her daughter patsies? Is an element of FSB involved? Were they just lax or colluding?
https://youtu.be/7ydgjekMr1c
The NRA is taking responsibility for her assassination. You know, the Russian nationalist partisan saboteurs who get their Intel and explosives from their local hardware store. It's obvious they have infiltrated deeply into the ranks of the Russian military because how else would you explain the Russian military lobbing artillery shells dangerously close on a Ukrainian nuclear power plant occupied by the RUSSIAN MILITARY? 😂
A lot of subhuman pig animals missed a good opportunity to keep their snouts shut after this atrocity.
Radical anarchists under some beardo called Ponomarev might be behind the assassination:
"..The organization of terrorist guerrilla in Russia, with which Ponomarev allegedly interacts, is likely mythical and only exists in the social media.
However, this does not exclude the fact that the assassination of Daria Dugina corresponds to the interests of Russian radicals who have received asylum abroad. ...
It is quite possible that Russian “activists” interacted in many ways with the Ukrainian special services in order to organize the attack. Russian leftists and anarchists could enlist the support of Ukrainian agents embedded in Russia, who provided technical support and carried out the assassination. It is also possible that the operation was carried out without the consent of the supreme leadership of Ukraine.
Daria Dugina was a public person. At the same time, she was little known to the broad Russian public. The same assessment is partially relevant to her father. Dugin’s name is well known only to the active patriotic part of Russian society. Dugin has not been given the opportunity to spread his ideas through the state media lately. He participated in public discussions years ago, and then he disappeared from the Russian media. It’s hard to remember when Russian political talk shows invited Dugin to the TV broadcast. Today, the main channels for the dissemination of his patriotic ideas are Internet platforms, which are not widely popular. He did not hold any political positions. One could not find any of his photos with Vladimir Putin.[so what's the point of killing him]...
The assassination of Daria Dugina has far-reaching consequences, which are necessary for radical opposition and are of little benefit to the Kiev regime. ...
At the same time, Daria’s murder is beneficial for Russian ultra-liberal forces in Russia and abroad. The response measures of the Russian government will lead to the marginalization of the political opposition, and the further radicalization of individuals and cells who remained on the territory of the country. Fugitive radicals are trying to initiate processes similar to those that took place in Russia in the early 20th century. They are trying to provoke social and political cases that will lead to the emergence of a terrorist movement ...
From the point of view of modern radicals, such a policy coordinated from abroad will create a revolutionary moment in Russia....
In their turn, Russian radical cells are awaiting for the medium and long-term consequences. In addition to the marginalization and radicalization of the opposition forces, they got the opportunity to demonstrate the results of their subversive activities to the US and British authorities and enlist their support in the long struggle for the destruction of the Russian nationhood.
The analysis of the short-term and long-term interests of different parties suggests that the Kiev regime is not the only one who should be suspected of the assassination of Daria Dugina. The Russian services have managed to identify the killer, but Moscow is yet to reveal the paymasters, organizers and accomplices."
https://southfront.org/kiev-is-not-the-only-one-to-be-blamed-for-assassination-of-daria-dugina/
Никола Миковић / Nikola Mikovic (@nikola_mikovic) · Твиттер-Rolo , you should definitely interview this Serb, he is awesome!
I've enjoyed your writing, and will continue to do so, not least because you're better informed on your topic than I am (on your topic).
Please pardon my naivete in wondering: Were you being hyperbolic in saying NATO's "...stated objective is the killing of every single Russian", and if not, what's the basis for saying it?
I ask because, not as a NATO apologist or even follower, just a simple US citizen, I was quite literally taken aback when I read it.
I'm not "NATO", remember, but I know dozens of Russians and don't have, nor do I know a single person who has anything bad to say about the Russian people, God forbid wishing any of them dead.
As for Dugin, a week ago I'd never heard of him, but was briefly made aware of him via Lex Fridman's podcast with Jordan Peterson the other day. It's very interesting to have now had your take on him and his place in the story.
Tragic, but something does not add up. You lay out the facts and nothing was done to stop the attempt under those circumstances?
Thank you for this analysis. Can I gently chide you for the comment about the "old man"... as someone who hopes to be spared to see 60 (Mr Dugins age) later this year 😉. I hope he is spared for many more, regardless of his opinions, because to threaten people for their opinions/beliefs is abject villainy. Sadly there is much evil in the world.