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This SBU defector makes a good case for total Ukrainian permanent losses due to all causes being a little less than 100k.

https://t.me/ukr_leaks/4254

He uses the Ukrainians own numbers about unit strengths, losses etc to make his case and he low balls them. For example Ukrainian losses at Mariupol alone may well have been 15k total just based on the number of defenders but he low balls it to 10k. He points out that if you take the Ukrainian authorities at their word about their losses around Sever Donetsk in May and June for example and go with even a low ball end that you have 6k Ukrainian losses for those 2 months on that front. So you have 16k losses in just 2 battles. But we also had the heavy fighting around Kherson, popasnya, Opitnoe, Krasny Liman, Izum, Bakhmut, Marinka etc etc. So a bit under 100k is not a stretch at all. The dude than shows the Ukrainians laws regarding compensation for the families of war dead and points out that if Ukraine actually paid they would be broke hence just say everyone is missing and we only have 12k KIAs for sure.

I also think a little less than 100k is accurate and thats not even remotely close to enough for attrition to be a viable strategy unless Russias losses are rock bottom which they are not. As for the strategy imo what we are seeing is the best Russia can do with in the confines of the elites ideological constraints. Changing course to win the war is just as fatal to their future prospects as is victory so no need to move outside their comfort zone as far as they are concerned.

Personally I wouldn't even be counting on any big game changing offensives from Russia either. Just getting one of those off the ground would require stepping onto the slippery slope towards actual societal mobilization and I cant see the Kremlinites allowing that. Once you allow for the even a little bit of a war footing the next thing you know people might demand more to win harder and faster. Yes the Russian elite would seriously prefer a long and indecisive war with no societal mobilization over a quick and victorious one where society is mobilized. If it can be shown that difficult wars can be won when the elites financial and ideological interests are shelved and rebuked than well....lets not go there.

Of course the US is also operating within the constraints of the ruling classes ideology. They can give Ukraine all the best gear, all the best real time intel and infinity shekels. Its not a big sacrifice really for the US but its also the best they can do. Will it be enough to beat Russia decisively? I don't know. This gay ass wars outcome is basically a matter of which ruling class is cock blocking their countries chances of victory the least and that's a tough call to make.

As of now Wanger is really the only show in town for Russia. But Wagner alone cant generate the needed mass and concentration of force to conduct game changing offensives. You need a real army for that so Russia isn't going anywhere fast anytime soon. The real question is will Ukraine be able to conduct large strategic offensives capable of straight defeating Russia. So far all Ukraines especially successful offensives were against very minimal resistance. Will the Ukrainians be able to do their own Mariupols and Soledars in reverse though? I think they just might be able to.

Its all eyes on the AFU for now.

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Rolo,

Thank you for the update. You have had a good string of articles in the past few weeks.

Wagner now recruits in prison ; they used to recruit petty officers from the army and soldiers from among the poor. It appears that Ukraine also largely recruits its frontline soldiers from the lowest rungs of society. Is it that bad for a society that many men from the bottom 10-20% are killed ?

I view the emigration of middle class and upper-middle class families both from Ukraine and Russia as the real disaster. The number of emigrants far exceeds the number of dead and maimed !!!

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