Looks like Prigozhin met with Putin the day before the not assassination, but he was suppose to leave Moscow a bit earlier but didn't because of some kind of postponement. We already know some prospective person who wanted to buy Prigozhins plane was looking at it hours before the not murder (also Prigozhin deserved to be murdered) as well as some maintenance crew from the manufacturer which apparently isn't normal. All that is fishy enough considering that Prigozhin was supposed to have left by than.
I mean if you wanted to make damn sure Prigozhins departure was delayed a little bit than Putin is the one person who could definitely do that.
Agreed that "The Kremlin is too moral to have done this and Prigozhin deserved it" is peak Zanon hamster wheel spinning. It's one the big mysteries of our time, how indeed are such people even alive? The Kremlin is playing 5D chess with Judo tactics in the ultimate game of Machiavellian stratego but they are also Saintly angels who exist far above the dirty soil of real politic.
IMO Utkin was the only real thing if value lost, I'll always have a soft spot for Prigozhin as a black clown who really did go down like Tony Montana. That Nword really was totally ride or die and Ill respect a nihilist who lives consistently with in the presuppositions of his world view. But he was his guy, not ours and it's genuinely a blow to all that's good in the universe that Utkin went down with him.
Also I piss on all the Zanons seriously acting like Prigozhin was any worse than the people who killed him.
The only English language take I've read is Martyanovs and all he said is that Wagner sucked and held back the great MoD Khaganite for the past year and a half. It wasn't Ukrainian resistance or the influx of Western weapons you see its Wagners fault the war isn't over already. Of course he didn't offer any speculations about who did it but the gloating suggest he thinks it was the Kremlin but he is too much of a scum bag/cuck to just say it. But the accusation that Wagner prevented total Shogunite victory is a very telling narrative on his part, quite the backhanded way of saying the not war is going badly.
The only people I've seen outright say what's obvious is Rusich, Grey Zone, Parker and sort of Strelkov (but it wasn't Putin of course) according to the latter. But being in jail already I don't hold that qualification against him too much.
gloating over the death of 10 people who fought for russia is just too much.
what did wagner do to offend Martyanov so much? like, the normal reaction would not be to gloat. it just wouldnt be. that is unhinged. but then these people cheered on strelkov's arrest.
Wagner killed 12 Russian aircrew but they certainly never gloated about it, and I don't think they wanted to do it. But here these chudaks are gloating over the deaths of Wagner personal and a plane crew that was literally just a plane crew. Like alright the stewardess and pilots "deserved" it?
Martyanov has his face so far up Shoigus ass that it's hard to say where one ends and the other begins. So presumably criticism of Shoigu is the same as critism of Martyanov as far as Martyanov is concerned. That's the root of the offense imo.
when will we see the wonder weapons that martyanov has written tomes about. when will we see the "russian military revolution"? is his line that shoigu is keeping it in reserve for NATO armies? i bet that it is.
The thing is he drastically overstates the capabilities of Russias weapons but Russia actually does outclass NATO when it comes to missiles, air defense, electronic warfare, and counter battery radars.
The problem wasnt Russias missiles, it's that the stockpile Russia had was wasted on transformers that were repaired in a few hours. But Russia does plant Iskanders dead on target when they want to. But they are planted on hotels full of mercenaries every few months and never on the railroad gauge adapter stations in West Ukraine. Never on Dniper bridges.
Russias counter battery radars are actually the best in the world but there is only a handful of them over a year and a half into this, not enough crews to man that handful, and even those that are manned don't have direct comms with the units they are supporting so they often don't help much anyway. And comms is one area where Russia is just genuinely behind.
The problems are like 75% structural and 25% just being behind with technology. But solving structural problems would require the transformation of Russia from an LLC into a real country that is willing to invest in a military victory with some lost income to the richest people in society. An LLC can produce some cool technology but it can't manufacture it at scale if that scale implies a loss of profit to share holders. Hence having to run to Iran for drones and North Korea for artillery ammo.
The whole world is taking a deep breath, actually. Such is the growing awareness that the lunatics are bent on driving the bus right over the cliff. Non-linear events happening everywhere now.
Here in Canada we've just taken law licences away from lawyers who brought suits against the government for their unconstitutional Lockdowns during COVID, consigned famous author and psychologist, Jordan Peterson, to 're-education' for mean tweets, and the woke city council in Toronto have decided to commit millions of dollars (which they don't have) to re-naming over sixty street names including Yonge Street (since 1774) the longest street in the world and Simcoe Street named after Lord Simcoe who established the first anti-slavery legislation in the British Empire, but no matter, we must do away with past. Eradication is the tool of the moment.
Do you have any media release about revoking the law licences of lawyers that challenged the covid lockdowns ? I am curious to read how they did it. I have seen quite a few legal principles made moot in the past few years so I want to know about the changes to the "rule of law".
They are doing it via licensure all over North America (and perhaps abroad?). Medical professionals all being 'disciplined' by their regulating body for non-adherance to orthodoxy whether with the Covid narrative, the transgendered cult, whatever. John Carpay (and another lawyer) were disciplined for having a judge tailed during Covid lockdowns ( which may have been stupid but is not illegal, as it is noted ). They are both with the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms which brought the majority of lawsuits against Covid lockdowns and for many who were charged in the February 2022 Truckers Convoy protest. https://lawsociety.mb.ca/statement-on-carpay-cameron-disciplinary-hearings/
In France plenty of medical professionals were sent to early retirement (soft mode) or expelled from the medical order and barred from practicing (hard mode) for challenging COVID guidance as not being in the best interest of patients or public health. That includes university professors of medicine, hospital and hospital department heads or members of the Academy of medicine ! Those ignorants !
I am ambivalent regarding Jordan Peterson. Psychological analysis of public personalities or their actions does not sit well with Colleges of Psychology in most developed countries. It would be quite different if he were a professor of history or sociology or mathematics.
I cannot understand the attacks on Trump's lawyers. This goes against the foundation of American "rule of law" where the attorneys' fight for their clients is a professional duty that has no bearing on their moral standing.
Agreed re Peterson. He picked this fight, although it is consistent with the position he took challenging 'compelled speech' in 2016 which made him famous initially. I see him as fighting a battle that he uniquely can afford to fight because he doesn't practice any longer AND is financially able to. That cannot be said of many of the health practitioners and workers and other ordinary people (of whom I am one) who lost their jobs because of their consciensious objection to medical tyranny, or of parents who are being targeted for objecting to trans lunacy, including losing their parental rights ( California, Quebec ). As for the attack on Trump's lawyers, that is another symptom of TDS. It is a real thing.
If Prigo, a feudal lord in good (according to all public statements) standing at court can suddenly be killed after having gotten the kiss of peace, then is the royal court 'agreement capable'?
Yep. Well I can't and don't argue with you about Russia and Putin being in a parlous and p*** weak state. I'm here to learn. I don't know.
But this doesn't convince me. About the only substance you point at is Putin's speech and I don't see that the way you do. But you understand Russian I think and I don't. But this English:
"He was a man with a difficult fate, and he made serious mistakes in life. And he achieved the results he needed for himself, and when I asked him for it, for the common cause, as it was in these last months. "
means to me that Putin is putting distance between himself and Prigozhin but with a careful neutral character. Doesn't applaud the man, simply give him his due, and doesn't denigrate the man.
What's interesting are the latter phrases: " and when I asked him for it, for the common cause, as it was in these last months " which to me reads like Prigozhin was directly working for Putin in these latter months. Doing what Putin asked him to do.
I'm inclined to wait and see and look for someone somewhere to get topped that might have been in a position to order or arrange this death for Prigozhin. I think Putin may want revenge.
There are reports that "officials" have destroyed Wagnerite graves in Nikolaevka. If this is true, and the graves are not being given a new and improved cemetery, this seems like a great way to rally popular sentiment against the powers that be.
Yes—it’s a matter of having the ability to “read between the lines” —a combination of what is and is not being said, who’s saying it, plus temper, tone and timing. But still, to really, truly understand what media and government is telling the public, you’ve got to “understand” their history as it really is—not how emotional you “believe” it must be. You’ve also got to understand their lawyers and what lawyers are and how they use psychological warfare. And that’s the biggest problem for humanity—they have been trained to “believe” rather than “understand” reality, and most don’t even get the difference, nor do they care.
If NATO is suspected of being involved, which is more than just plausible, so was the CIA and U.S. Army intelligence, but of course this does NOT mean Putin didn’t know or wasn’t indirectly involved. And even if Putin was directly involved, which I’m still not sure he was, he can always remind everyone that he warned his comrades about his stance on traitors, going back decades.
Is there any government official who’s not playing the “plausible deniability” card in all of these “not-war” games? How often are the people told by government officials, “But my advisors didn’t tell me, so how can it be my fault?”
It’s bazar and scary how the average American thinks, that if Trump is being arrested, this must mean Biden is innocent, or at least “more innocent” than Trump. It all depends upon the colors the mezzed constituent wears and how the media “explains” it. So even though everyone knows Biden may be guilty of many crimes, Trump must be more guilty because he’s bing arrested first, whatever the hell that means. From the Leftist-Blue side—they’ll insist Biden had nothing to do with it—Trump is a criminal. And from the Righteous-Red side—Trump may be guilty—but it was his advisor’s fault (who incidentally are 99% Zionist operatives, same as Biden’s crooked advisors), or they’ll just say it’s all Biden’s fault.
Frankly, I hate both sides and want to see all of them mentally institutionalized, starting with their “innocent” lawyers.
Putin is of course a psychopath and has always been one. Even at the beginning of his career the Moscow bombings of apartment buildings showed that. That's not the big problem though. After all Stalin was psychopath but despite some big mistakes, overall he was reasonably competent and many of his extreme measures (such as the forced industrialization) were justified by events. The bigger problem with psychopath Putin is his total incompetence, perhaps not too bad in his initial years as president but a level of incompetence has since then escalated remarkably, most dramatically in 2014 and the entire Ukraine saga, but also in many other respects. Has he made a single big decision in the past decade or so that has not been an enormous blunder? Wagner's march on Moscow should have been a wake up call for him showing how little support his regime actually has (and don't BS about those concocted approval ratings). But this man is incapable of learning from experience. Instead he chucks away what little popular support he might have still had by demonstrating to even the stupidest peasant in the country what a vile, pathetic and treacherous little coward he is.
The bad thing here is that this creates a very perilous situation for the country. When a regime has such little support that even a few thousand Wagner men with a couple of tanks could have overthrown it, others will be encouraged to try, and they won't pull out halfway. The tragedy is that the patriotic forces in the military have been purged and emasculated, and the patriots in the country (like Strelkov) spent their time sitting on their butts and posting on Telegram instead of organizing and building an movement that could do what Wagner failed to do. And believe me when a regime completely loses legitimacy it can be done - look at the Bolsheviks, they just marched in and took over the govt and no one was prepared to defend Kerensky's government. The tragedy now is that with the military and the patriots disorganized and emasculated, it's the oligarchs who might strike.
You're surely not serious! Every revolutionary movement in history has suffered persecution, arrests, harassment, torture, assassination, etc., been forced to operate partly underground, and partly through becoming part of legal opposition movements - heard of the IRA, the Bolsheviks, most communist parties, anti-colonial resistance movements, the ANC and PAC in Apartheid South Africa (as well as multiple smaller underground movements there)? Russian history is full of movements like this. The hard truth is if one really wants change one has get off one's butt and start doing something and that will involve risk and hardship. History is full of this, and yes, many failed, but some succeeded. If the Russian patriots really wanted change they had to do this. They didn't or at least not till now. Will this wake them up? One can only hope so, but it is getting very, very late. And yes, they will face risks they may be killed, but what's the alternative? They way things may go, they will probably perish anyway, no doubt sitting on their butts trying to send dying messages out on Telegram. Do you seriously think the oligarchs and the west will show mercy this time, and not complete the job they failed to complete in the nineties? This time the country will be destroyed with no hope of recovery.
This just isn't a factually accurate understanding of revolutionary movements.
Lenin and his Communists organized abroad. They were financed from abroad. Lenin was treated well by the Tsar system. He was given a pension when he was exiled to Siberia by the Imperial government. The prosecutor was a family friend of his. Etc etc etc.
Unless you have sponsors abroad or in the country, you will get killed for even organizing 5 of your friends for a grilling party if you have the wrong views.
Are there any video clips of Prigozhin getting into the plane? I ask because of the video of him in Africa just before his demise. There was a "leak" immediately after the crash (and his death, presumably but we don’t really know if he’s dead) deceptive or informative I don't know which, which said that Prigozhin’s body had been decapitated. It made me wonder if the cannibals in Africa dismembered Prigozhin and shipped the remains back to Moscow where they were loaded onto the plane that crashed or was shot down.
Another weird thing - all the top brass of Wagner gets on one plane? Really? Practiced conspirators and killers? It’s more than weird. (But if they got on the plane in parts or already dead .. )
Oh yeah, I want to see him in the body bag before I'd really believe he is dead. I also find it pretty incredible that the entire leadership team travelled in one plane. Just not done.
Manpads / stigners are all over Europe now, for downing planes close to airports. Nobody is safe in an airplane. The sionist bankers in City of London own and control world finance and politics and their unknown secret killer agency combine and buy services from all the others, mossad, cia, mi6, fsb...yes!
The junta in Kremlin, Kiev, Washington are the same tribe making money on war and they all hate their population. Now they like to kill slavs and sell their bodyparts to needy friends for 1 - 2 billion dollars a week. They enjoy to keep the business alive. The City killers probably hired mossad to take down Prigo as a warning to the Kremlin oligarcs because they want their servant Putin in place.
Have you heard any rumors blaming the French? I came across it this morning in this blog. https://helenaglass.net/2023/08/24/the-cabal-has-failed/ I hadn't thought of that, but started thinking who'd have the most to gain from his death and found it plausible
Looks like Prigozhin met with Putin the day before the not assassination, but he was suppose to leave Moscow a bit earlier but didn't because of some kind of postponement. We already know some prospective person who wanted to buy Prigozhins plane was looking at it hours before the not murder (also Prigozhin deserved to be murdered) as well as some maintenance crew from the manufacturer which apparently isn't normal. All that is fishy enough considering that Prigozhin was supposed to have left by than.
https://t.me/vchkogpu/41243?single
I mean if you wanted to make damn sure Prigozhins departure was delayed a little bit than Putin is the one person who could definitely do that.
Agreed that "The Kremlin is too moral to have done this and Prigozhin deserved it" is peak Zanon hamster wheel spinning. It's one the big mysteries of our time, how indeed are such people even alive? The Kremlin is playing 5D chess with Judo tactics in the ultimate game of Machiavellian stratego but they are also Saintly angels who exist far above the dirty soil of real politic.
IMO Utkin was the only real thing if value lost, I'll always have a soft spot for Prigozhin as a black clown who really did go down like Tony Montana. That Nword really was totally ride or die and Ill respect a nihilist who lives consistently with in the presuppositions of his world view. But he was his guy, not ours and it's genuinely a blow to all that's good in the universe that Utkin went down with him.
Also I piss on all the Zanons seriously acting like Prigozhin was any worse than the people who killed him.
i havent been checking english media reactions, what are you seeing. the ritter honesty was surprising. + 1 respect.
The only English language take I've read is Martyanovs and all he said is that Wagner sucked and held back the great MoD Khaganite for the past year and a half. It wasn't Ukrainian resistance or the influx of Western weapons you see its Wagners fault the war isn't over already. Of course he didn't offer any speculations about who did it but the gloating suggest he thinks it was the Kremlin but he is too much of a scum bag/cuck to just say it. But the accusation that Wagner prevented total Shogunite victory is a very telling narrative on his part, quite the backhanded way of saying the not war is going badly.
The only people I've seen outright say what's obvious is Rusich, Grey Zone, Parker and sort of Strelkov (but it wasn't Putin of course) according to the latter. But being in jail already I don't hold that qualification against him too much.
gloating over the death of 10 people who fought for russia is just too much.
what did wagner do to offend Martyanov so much? like, the normal reaction would not be to gloat. it just wouldnt be. that is unhinged. but then these people cheered on strelkov's arrest.
"are we the baddies?"
Wagner killed 12 Russian aircrew but they certainly never gloated about it, and I don't think they wanted to do it. But here these chudaks are gloating over the deaths of Wagner personal and a plane crew that was literally just a plane crew. Like alright the stewardess and pilots "deserved" it?
Martyanov has his face so far up Shoigus ass that it's hard to say where one ends and the other begins. So presumably criticism of Shoigu is the same as critism of Martyanov as far as Martyanov is concerned. That's the root of the offense imo.
when will we see the wonder weapons that martyanov has written tomes about. when will we see the "russian military revolution"? is his line that shoigu is keeping it in reserve for NATO armies? i bet that it is.
The thing is he drastically overstates the capabilities of Russias weapons but Russia actually does outclass NATO when it comes to missiles, air defense, electronic warfare, and counter battery radars.
The problem wasnt Russias missiles, it's that the stockpile Russia had was wasted on transformers that were repaired in a few hours. But Russia does plant Iskanders dead on target when they want to. But they are planted on hotels full of mercenaries every few months and never on the railroad gauge adapter stations in West Ukraine. Never on Dniper bridges.
Russias counter battery radars are actually the best in the world but there is only a handful of them over a year and a half into this, not enough crews to man that handful, and even those that are manned don't have direct comms with the units they are supporting so they often don't help much anyway. And comms is one area where Russia is just genuinely behind.
The problems are like 75% structural and 25% just being behind with technology. But solving structural problems would require the transformation of Russia from an LLC into a real country that is willing to invest in a military victory with some lost income to the richest people in society. An LLC can produce some cool technology but it can't manufacture it at scale if that scale implies a loss of profit to share holders. Hence having to run to Iran for drones and North Korea for artillery ammo.
The whole world is taking a deep breath, actually. Such is the growing awareness that the lunatics are bent on driving the bus right over the cliff. Non-linear events happening everywhere now.
Here in Canada we've just taken law licences away from lawyers who brought suits against the government for their unconstitutional Lockdowns during COVID, consigned famous author and psychologist, Jordan Peterson, to 're-education' for mean tweets, and the woke city council in Toronto have decided to commit millions of dollars (which they don't have) to re-naming over sixty street names including Yonge Street (since 1774) the longest street in the world and Simcoe Street named after Lord Simcoe who established the first anti-slavery legislation in the British Empire, but no matter, we must do away with past. Eradication is the tool of the moment.
Hello Unsure,
Do you have any media release about revoking the law licences of lawyers that challenged the covid lockdowns ? I am curious to read how they did it. I have seen quite a few legal principles made moot in the past few years so I want to know about the changes to the "rule of law".
They are doing it via licensure all over North America (and perhaps abroad?). Medical professionals all being 'disciplined' by their regulating body for non-adherance to orthodoxy whether with the Covid narrative, the transgendered cult, whatever. John Carpay (and another lawyer) were disciplined for having a judge tailed during Covid lockdowns ( which may have been stupid but is not illegal, as it is noted ). They are both with the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms which brought the majority of lawsuits against Covid lockdowns and for many who were charged in the February 2022 Truckers Convoy protest. https://lawsociety.mb.ca/statement-on-carpay-cameron-disciplinary-hearings/
Dr. Jordan Peterson also being disciplined by his governing body, the College of Psycologists, not for any patient-related complaints, as he no longer practices, but because of public complaints about his statements against Trudeau and other controversial topics. https://www.cpso.on.ca/en/News/News-Articles/CPSO-s-Statement-on-Jordan-Peterson-v-College-of-P
This is also a common tactic of Democracts against lawyers retained by Donald Trump - they even formed The Project 65 to go after them: https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/10/politics/ethics-complaints-attorney-misconduct-trump-election-reversal/index.html
Thank you for the info.
In France plenty of medical professionals were sent to early retirement (soft mode) or expelled from the medical order and barred from practicing (hard mode) for challenging COVID guidance as not being in the best interest of patients or public health. That includes university professors of medicine, hospital and hospital department heads or members of the Academy of medicine ! Those ignorants !
I am ambivalent regarding Jordan Peterson. Psychological analysis of public personalities or their actions does not sit well with Colleges of Psychology in most developed countries. It would be quite different if he were a professor of history or sociology or mathematics.
I cannot understand the attacks on Trump's lawyers. This goes against the foundation of American "rule of law" where the attorneys' fight for their clients is a professional duty that has no bearing on their moral standing.
Agreed re Peterson. He picked this fight, although it is consistent with the position he took challenging 'compelled speech' in 2016 which made him famous initially. I see him as fighting a battle that he uniquely can afford to fight because he doesn't practice any longer AND is financially able to. That cannot be said of many of the health practitioners and workers and other ordinary people (of whom I am one) who lost their jobs because of their consciensious objection to medical tyranny, or of parents who are being targeted for objecting to trans lunacy, including losing their parental rights ( California, Quebec ). As for the attack on Trump's lawyers, that is another symptom of TDS. It is a real thing.
If Prigo, a feudal lord in good (according to all public statements) standing at court can suddenly be killed after having gotten the kiss of peace, then is the royal court 'agreement capable'?
Yep. Well I can't and don't argue with you about Russia and Putin being in a parlous and p*** weak state. I'm here to learn. I don't know.
But this doesn't convince me. About the only substance you point at is Putin's speech and I don't see that the way you do. But you understand Russian I think and I don't. But this English:
"He was a man with a difficult fate, and he made serious mistakes in life. And he achieved the results he needed for himself, and when I asked him for it, for the common cause, as it was in these last months. "
means to me that Putin is putting distance between himself and Prigozhin but with a careful neutral character. Doesn't applaud the man, simply give him his due, and doesn't denigrate the man.
What's interesting are the latter phrases: " and when I asked him for it, for the common cause, as it was in these last months " which to me reads like Prigozhin was directly working for Putin in these latter months. Doing what Putin asked him to do.
I'm inclined to wait and see and look for someone somewhere to get topped that might have been in a position to order or arrange this death for Prigozhin. I think Putin may want revenge.
There are reports that "officials" have destroyed Wagnerite graves in Nikolaevka. If this is true, and the graves are not being given a new and improved cemetery, this seems like a great way to rally popular sentiment against the powers that be.
Yes—it’s a matter of having the ability to “read between the lines” —a combination of what is and is not being said, who’s saying it, plus temper, tone and timing. But still, to really, truly understand what media and government is telling the public, you’ve got to “understand” their history as it really is—not how emotional you “believe” it must be. You’ve also got to understand their lawyers and what lawyers are and how they use psychological warfare. And that’s the biggest problem for humanity—they have been trained to “believe” rather than “understand” reality, and most don’t even get the difference, nor do they care.
If NATO is suspected of being involved, which is more than just plausible, so was the CIA and U.S. Army intelligence, but of course this does NOT mean Putin didn’t know or wasn’t indirectly involved. And even if Putin was directly involved, which I’m still not sure he was, he can always remind everyone that he warned his comrades about his stance on traitors, going back decades.
Is there any government official who’s not playing the “plausible deniability” card in all of these “not-war” games? How often are the people told by government officials, “But my advisors didn’t tell me, so how can it be my fault?”
It’s bazar and scary how the average American thinks, that if Trump is being arrested, this must mean Biden is innocent, or at least “more innocent” than Trump. It all depends upon the colors the mezzed constituent wears and how the media “explains” it. So even though everyone knows Biden may be guilty of many crimes, Trump must be more guilty because he’s bing arrested first, whatever the hell that means. From the Leftist-Blue side—they’ll insist Biden had nothing to do with it—Trump is a criminal. And from the Righteous-Red side—Trump may be guilty—but it was his advisor’s fault (who incidentally are 99% Zionist operatives, same as Biden’s crooked advisors), or they’ll just say it’s all Biden’s fault.
Frankly, I hate both sides and want to see all of them mentally institutionalized, starting with their “innocent” lawyers.
Putin is of course a psychopath and has always been one. Even at the beginning of his career the Moscow bombings of apartment buildings showed that. That's not the big problem though. After all Stalin was psychopath but despite some big mistakes, overall he was reasonably competent and many of his extreme measures (such as the forced industrialization) were justified by events. The bigger problem with psychopath Putin is his total incompetence, perhaps not too bad in his initial years as president but a level of incompetence has since then escalated remarkably, most dramatically in 2014 and the entire Ukraine saga, but also in many other respects. Has he made a single big decision in the past decade or so that has not been an enormous blunder? Wagner's march on Moscow should have been a wake up call for him showing how little support his regime actually has (and don't BS about those concocted approval ratings). But this man is incapable of learning from experience. Instead he chucks away what little popular support he might have still had by demonstrating to even the stupidest peasant in the country what a vile, pathetic and treacherous little coward he is.
The bad thing here is that this creates a very perilous situation for the country. When a regime has such little support that even a few thousand Wagner men with a couple of tanks could have overthrown it, others will be encouraged to try, and they won't pull out halfway. The tragedy is that the patriotic forces in the military have been purged and emasculated, and the patriots in the country (like Strelkov) spent their time sitting on their butts and posting on Telegram instead of organizing and building an movement that could do what Wagner failed to do. And believe me when a regime completely loses legitimacy it can be done - look at the Bolsheviks, they just marched in and took over the govt and no one was prepared to defend Kerensky's government. The tragedy now is that with the military and the patriots disorganized and emasculated, it's the oligarchs who might strike.
you cant even start a club that posts on telegram without getting arrested and you want them to create a political movement?
with a spook state in place, this is impossible.
You're surely not serious! Every revolutionary movement in history has suffered persecution, arrests, harassment, torture, assassination, etc., been forced to operate partly underground, and partly through becoming part of legal opposition movements - heard of the IRA, the Bolsheviks, most communist parties, anti-colonial resistance movements, the ANC and PAC in Apartheid South Africa (as well as multiple smaller underground movements there)? Russian history is full of movements like this. The hard truth is if one really wants change one has get off one's butt and start doing something and that will involve risk and hardship. History is full of this, and yes, many failed, but some succeeded. If the Russian patriots really wanted change they had to do this. They didn't or at least not till now. Will this wake them up? One can only hope so, but it is getting very, very late. And yes, they will face risks they may be killed, but what's the alternative? They way things may go, they will probably perish anyway, no doubt sitting on their butts trying to send dying messages out on Telegram. Do you seriously think the oligarchs and the west will show mercy this time, and not complete the job they failed to complete in the nineties? This time the country will be destroyed with no hope of recovery.
This just isn't a factually accurate understanding of revolutionary movements.
Lenin and his Communists organized abroad. They were financed from abroad. Lenin was treated well by the Tsar system. He was given a pension when he was exiled to Siberia by the Imperial government. The prosecutor was a family friend of his. Etc etc etc.
Unless you have sponsors abroad or in the country, you will get killed for even organizing 5 of your friends for a grilling party if you have the wrong views.
if other readers are this ignorant I’m starting to wonder what my subscribing here says about me
Is that you Anatoly Chubais
Are there any video clips of Prigozhin getting into the plane? I ask because of the video of him in Africa just before his demise. There was a "leak" immediately after the crash (and his death, presumably but we don’t really know if he’s dead) deceptive or informative I don't know which, which said that Prigozhin’s body had been decapitated. It made me wonder if the cannibals in Africa dismembered Prigozhin and shipped the remains back to Moscow where they were loaded onto the plane that crashed or was shot down.
Another weird thing - all the top brass of Wagner gets on one plane? Really? Practiced conspirators and killers? It’s more than weird. (But if they got on the plane in parts or already dead .. )
Good piece, Rolo. And entertaining.
Oh yeah, I want to see him in the body bag before I'd really believe he is dead. I also find it pretty incredible that the entire leadership team travelled in one plane. Just not done.
Word! Rolo Word! Pls bring this to twitter.
ive got a week long ban
Manpads / stigners are all over Europe now, for downing planes close to airports. Nobody is safe in an airplane. The sionist bankers in City of London own and control world finance and politics and their unknown secret killer agency combine and buy services from all the others, mossad, cia, mi6, fsb...yes!
The junta in Kremlin, Kiev, Washington are the same tribe making money on war and they all hate their population. Now they like to kill slavs and sell their bodyparts to needy friends for 1 - 2 billion dollars a week. They enjoy to keep the business alive. The City killers probably hired mossad to take down Prigo as a warning to the Kremlin oligarcs because they want their servant Putin in place.
Ol' Botox looked and sounded just like a mafia Don.
One should take note of one's inner tealeaf reader.
One should not expect a signed confession.
I would have thought that Prigozhin would have been more clever.
Have you heard any rumors blaming the French? I came across it this morning in this blog. https://helenaglass.net/2023/08/24/the-cabal-has-failed/ I hadn't thought of that, but started thinking who'd have the most to gain from his death and found it plausible
another great article, i hope the dip in the water is brief
Every oligarch in Russia and Ukraine must be doubling their security about now.
here is your pickax and your helmet, the uranium mine is that way.