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Andy H.'s avatar

"But I suppose I’ll need to do a deep dive on China-Russia relations to really prove my point."

Finally!!!!!

Bring it.

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"China and Russia are not allies. I’ve tried to explain many times on this blog that Russia and China are rivals, not friends. That most of the news about China helping Russia fight the West are nothing more than fake news."

Yep, China wants to keep Russia "in the fight", not win the war. If Russia wins the war, then China, if it tries to take the Far East (because that's where the oil and natural gas that China needs are), it will get stopped. As long as Russia is expending troops and materiel in Ukraine - and it's obvious they're running out of both, having to trade oil for North Korean mercenaries now that Kadyrov seems to have lost interest in helping out - and having to use really inappropriate and expensive IRBM tech which would indicate that it has drawn down its conventional missile stocks, among other things. So it's probably a matter of time before China decides to cross the Rubicon again, so to speak:

"Mao engineered a fierce conflict with the Soviet Union along the border in the Soviet and Chinese Siberia region in early March 1969, which escalated to a series of intermittent skirmishes for more than half a year. Mao had three purposes in mind. First, he wanted to exploit the opportunity of the Soviet Union’s weakened position and tarnished reputation after the suppression of the Prague Spring, in order to regain China’s lost ideological reputation within the world communist movement. A border fight with the Soviet Union would greatly enhance his reputation. Secondly, Mao was in the midst of a national military mobilization to fulfill his strategic vision of a “Protracted People’s War.” He would use semi-regular military personnel, such as armed militia and border guards, in a real battle situation to beef up his “Every Citizen a Soldier” call to arms. Third, Mao was preparing for a landmark 9th Party Congress scheduled to take place in early April 1969 to exalt his Cultural Revolution triumphs and delegate his chosen heirs in waiting, notably his wife Jiang Qing and Marshal Lin Biao. He needed a military victory over a major adversary to hype and glorify his political maneuvers.

On March 2, 1969, on a seasonal sandy island––which China calls Zhenbao and Russia calls Damansky in the middle of the Ussuri river demarcating the Soviet-Chinese border in the northeastern Chinese province of Helongjiang––a Soviet military team was ambushed by a waiting Chinese border patrol unit, killing over a dozen Soviet Red Army soldiers. In the ensuing two weeks, hundreds of Chinese and Soviet troops conducted back-and-forth fights for the control of Zhenbao (Damansky) island, with tens of thousands of artillery rounds being fired upon each other, resulting in the deaths of about 70 soldiers on each side, and hundreds wounded. The most notable action took place after the ceasefire on March 17. On March 21, the Soviets attempted to retrieve a submerged T-62 main battle tank on the island, only to meet concentrated Chinese shelling, after which Chinese divers pulled the T-62 tank, the most advanced main battle tank of the USSR at the time, from the river. China would reverse engineer it to become the Chinese Type 69 main battle tank. The original captured Soviet T-62 tank is still on display at the Chinese People’s Revolutionary Military Museum in Beijing.

After Mao showcased the Zhenbao island battle heroes during the April CCP 9th Party Congress, China became more belligerent toward the Soviets, who were equally riled up by Mao’s brazenness. Four months later, China and the USSR fought another series of small but dangerously escalating battles along their thousand-plus-mile-long border in China’s northwestern Uyghur region of Xinjiang. Since Mao’s murderous Great Famine of the Great Leap Forward, ethnic Uyghurs and Kazaks living inside Xinjiang had made dangerous exoduses crossing the border into the Soviet Union, outraging the CCP. In August 1969, Chinese and Soviet troops in Xinjiang conducted violent scuffles and fierce gunfights in places such as Tasiti, Bacha Dao, and Tielieketi, killing several dozen soldiers on each side. The Soviet leadership was so incensed by this series of new Chinese provocations that Moscow was seriously considering a nuclear strike against China, which had also developed its own nuclear weapons since 1964." https://www.hoover.org/research/1969-sino-soviet-border-conflicts-key-turning-point-cold-war

Only this time, the Chinese PLA will not be facing the Red Army of the Soviet Union, it will be facing a much weakened Russian Army which has shown itself as being incapable of breaking a stalemate in Eastern Ukraine after nearly two and a half years of fighting, and is very slowly removing the Ukrainian invasion of its own territory - if in fact it is able to push the incursion back across the border. And if China makes a move, it is very unlikely that Russia will be able to depend on North Korean assistance... The quicker Putin is able to wind up the failed SMO in Ukraine, the better for Russia

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