(Politics is About Coalition-Building, What is the Chosen Sector?, The Soviet Union Was Sparta But Retarded, Heretics Don't Live Long Lives, Liberalism is a Looting Operation, Pity the Peasants)
The point of reading history is to understand the principles behind the categories: what are people really talking about when they say right or left?
Economic transactions withing a country are supposed to have an outcome that benefits the society; those between countries are expected to benefit traders. The former implicity include ethical considerations of mutual welfare and common societal values; the latter exist only to amplify wealth and commodify everything in terms of money as a bottom line.
Thus national trade can have a cultural and spiritual purpose whicih is of no interest, or even anatagonistic, to internationalists. When we speak of economics, we are speaking of that established by traders and pirates like Patterson of the Bank of England and drug-trader Adam Smith. But this global economics is parasitic upon the national economics of actual producers, and antagonistic toward their spiritual and ethical values.
A lot to digest, but again helpful at explaining some of the harsher points you've made in the written posts. What's sticking at the moment is the lack of conduct code for the Right. We have no emphasis on Bushido collective ethics; instead we have libertarian hedonism as a fall back creed. That long list of what we can't vote for really helped disenchant me about democratic idealism. A looting operation is the praxis of oligarchy which has become rampant in America. We can see the corporate oligarchs are all professing to be woke and anti-white.
I could imagine Trump promising all those hypothetical authoritarian agenda items you mentioned. A lot of people would love him to drain the swamp. (Well, as an heretical exception I'd prefer war on Israel to Mexico.) Q seems to be hinting at your litany. Patriots are primed for authoritarian promises. So are you saying peasant solidarity should get behind Trump because he's the closest thing we're going to get to a strongman and have faith that he'll follow thru? That's a Christian Zionist sounding appeal isn't it? Trust the plan. We know what's best for you. Yikes!
No, I'm just pointing out that the masses went for Trump because they always rally behind the archetypical Strong Man. Populism is the path to Authoritarianism. It doesn't always work though. Even JC lost.
I agree that magatard "Patriots" are primed for authoritarian promises which they deserve credit for. Although the 1/6 protest gets smeared as an "insurrection", I think many if not most of these people wouldn't have a problem with a legitimate strong man (like Trump) usurping the government and banning opposition Hitler-style. I think there's a better chance of this happening through a republican candidate than a democrat one but who knows if the democratic process would matter.
After the_Donald subreddit was banned they moved to patriots.win which has many other message boards in the .win community. Slowly consumeProduct.win has been J-pilling patriots with slow but surprising success. It's a reason I think these many of these pro-Trump people are deep down primed to support actually far right strong-man authoritarians.
> I think many if not most of these people wouldn't have a problem with a legitimate strong man (like Trump) usurping the government and banning opposition Hitler-style
Totally agree.
You have the same phenomenon in Russia with the masses clamoring for Putin to arrest half the government, the media, the oligarchs and declare total war on the West and so on.
That our current crop of Strong Men leave quite a lot to be desired is besides the point.
The point of reading history is to understand the principles behind the categories: what are people really talking about when they say right or left?
Economic transactions withing a country are supposed to have an outcome that benefits the society; those between countries are expected to benefit traders. The former implicity include ethical considerations of mutual welfare and common societal values; the latter exist only to amplify wealth and commodify everything in terms of money as a bottom line.
Thus national trade can have a cultural and spiritual purpose whicih is of no interest, or even anatagonistic, to internationalists. When we speak of economics, we are speaking of that established by traders and pirates like Patterson of the Bank of England and drug-trader Adam Smith. But this global economics is parasitic upon the national economics of actual producers, and antagonistic toward their spiritual and ethical values.
A lot to digest, but again helpful at explaining some of the harsher points you've made in the written posts. What's sticking at the moment is the lack of conduct code for the Right. We have no emphasis on Bushido collective ethics; instead we have libertarian hedonism as a fall back creed. That long list of what we can't vote for really helped disenchant me about democratic idealism. A looting operation is the praxis of oligarchy which has become rampant in America. We can see the corporate oligarchs are all professing to be woke and anti-white.
I could imagine Trump promising all those hypothetical authoritarian agenda items you mentioned. A lot of people would love him to drain the swamp. (Well, as an heretical exception I'd prefer war on Israel to Mexico.) Q seems to be hinting at your litany. Patriots are primed for authoritarian promises. So are you saying peasant solidarity should get behind Trump because he's the closest thing we're going to get to a strongman and have faith that he'll follow thru? That's a Christian Zionist sounding appeal isn't it? Trust the plan. We know what's best for you. Yikes!
No, I'm just pointing out that the masses went for Trump because they always rally behind the archetypical Strong Man. Populism is the path to Authoritarianism. It doesn't always work though. Even JC lost.
I agree that magatard "Patriots" are primed for authoritarian promises which they deserve credit for. Although the 1/6 protest gets smeared as an "insurrection", I think many if not most of these people wouldn't have a problem with a legitimate strong man (like Trump) usurping the government and banning opposition Hitler-style. I think there's a better chance of this happening through a republican candidate than a democrat one but who knows if the democratic process would matter.
After the_Donald subreddit was banned they moved to patriots.win which has many other message boards in the .win community. Slowly consumeProduct.win has been J-pilling patriots with slow but surprising success. It's a reason I think these many of these pro-Trump people are deep down primed to support actually far right strong-man authoritarians.
> I think many if not most of these people wouldn't have a problem with a legitimate strong man (like Trump) usurping the government and banning opposition Hitler-style
Totally agree.
You have the same phenomenon in Russia with the masses clamoring for Putin to arrest half the government, the media, the oligarchs and declare total war on the West and so on.
That our current crop of Strong Men leave quite a lot to be desired is besides the point.