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Bartolo's avatar

It ain't 'distributionism', mate.

What you and the other guy mean is 'subsidiarity' (see? that way it isn't an '-ism' any longer).

Subsidiarity is a principle of social organization that holds that social and political issues should be dealt with at the most immediate (or local) level that is consistent with their resolution.

'Distributionism' is an economic doctrine developed by Chesterton and Belloc based on catholic social teaching and meant to be a middle ground between capitalism and communism. It's about spreading property as widely as possible.

Both concepts are related, but they are not the same.

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Rurik Skywalker's avatar

Thanks for the clarification mate.

I heard it used by John Carter and the SOTT guys.

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Bartolo's avatar

You are more than welcome. Btw, your work is fantastic, keep it up. If (?) quality leads to success , your substack should become quite popular.

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Frantic's avatar

I was going to make a couple of distinct observations but now I realise it's basically the same thing.

1. Once one is in politics, one realizes every interaction is a transaction. It's all about what can you offer. 60,000 eyeballs, between here, theoccidentalobserver and unz.com are evidently enticing to grassroots people: everyone wants their two bits of fame, plus probably common Russians look up to the English-speaking world.

But what can you offer to a politician/public servant that advances his own status? They are chiefly interested in their own career and the money involved, so they will look with suspicion to any proposal that goes off the beaten track. You could say that you know Dugin ,and so titillate their desire for prestigious connections. Something like that.

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Frantic's avatar

2. about the cooperation/collectivism, however you want to call it: difficult to achieve because everyone thinks is better than anyone else.

To be brutally honest, I probably think I'm better than Napoleon, because ultimately he's dead and I'm still around. I also think I am better than anyone here because I have credentials in a technical field. Rolo, same, he probably deep inside, maybe at an unconscious level, looks down at all of us, as anonymous commentators not ever capable of producing content published as headers on the current leading countercultural website (unz, imho). My neighbour looks more relaxed and happy than anyone in the building, hence he probably pities us, the other tenants.

This belief to be the top dog is a mechanism of psychological survival ingrained in the human mind.

This is also why in connecting with other people, all kinds of pettiness emerge. Hierarchies inevitably get established, and if one is not at the top, he will have got to quench his own self-esteem in some way to avoid existential pain.

Hence all the unbearable crappy behaviour emerges - especially from the most imbecilic section of the populace - that leads to societal atomization.

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Rurik Skywalker's avatar

>Hence all the unbearable crappy behaviour emerges - especially from the most imbecilic section of the populace - that leads to societal atomization.

Right, my view is that crappy behavior is the norm and it takes concentrated effort and well-thought out structures on a social level to counter-act this entropic trend. Raising something takes effort, letting it fall takes no effort at all.

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Frantic's avatar

Dugin loves to show off how international he is. He regularly participates in youtube debates with English, French, German, Spanish, Italian-speaking channels, in which he speaks in the local language.

He would love to deal with a Russian brought up in America that shares his interest in politics and philosophy, reading your blog, etc.

But now that I think about it, he may instead consider your views too compromising, and would want to keep away from you.

Both eventualities are possible.

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Rurik Skywalker's avatar

All great men have secretaries who decide who gets to speak with them.

In his case, his daughter.

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Frantic's avatar

Lol well unz.com is not so bad as a reference: it's unique for how wide its spectrum is. It goes from radicals talking only about the JQ, to "revenge of the third world" or "is all about the economy" typical boomer dissident types like Pepe Escobar and Michael Hudson. The latter are what the mainstream think dissidents are like, so it can be a very mimetic site (you can hide behind it) if you mention you are an author there.

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Jerome V's avatar

"In a world of Collectivism, Individualism is suicide." - Jason Köhne

Individualism may have worked in societies comprised almost exclusively of (individualistic) Westmen, but it has an Achilles heel since collectivist aliens have come among us.

I presume you're familiar with the theory that the West's individualism is the result of breeding program begun 1500 years ago. If not, reference https://hbdchick.wordpress.com/2014/03/10/big-summary-post-on-the-hajnal-line/

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Rurik Skywalker's avatar

Yep, HBD chick takes me back to the days of my halcyon youth.

Feels good being a non-Hajnal line huwhyte man.

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Jerome V's avatar

I used to pity you non-Hajnal line huwhyte men, but now I envy you.

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Jerome V's avatar

Once one acquires a paid position inside the (parasite?) hierarchy, all incentive to reveal truth which would advantage the host over the parasite is removed. Explains why these people fail to get back to you.

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CR's avatar

Regarding the bureaucrats not wanting to be interviewed... Could it be they are worried that deviating from the official narrative in any way risks their cushy jobs? Are they truly free to speak their minds without risking anything? Just a thought...

I want to be a bridge between Russia and the west>

You have opened up Russia to the west in ways I didn’t think possible. Thank you!

The story of your friend fighting to save the trees is so sad in so many ways. I find it hard not to give up on humanity entirely because most people are so damaged, deranged, and just evil it’s mind boggling.

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Mofwoofoo's avatar

What kind of world do we all want?

One where all human needs are most easily met, a just and peaceful world, where humanity is united, harmonious, and cooperative. A world with pristine nature and regenerative and syntropic agriculture, with happy, caring, and honest people. A world where no one is left out. A world devoid of hatred, cruelty, and corruption. A world where collaboration, reciprocity, and unconditional love for all is fundamental.

We love the divine, animating spirit that dwells within all life. We abhor asocial, cruel, violent, and dishonest behavior. And from there each city and village could regenerate autonomously and collaboratively (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wywMhg604W8). We regenerate our species to live in dignity and joy.

Could you agree to this?

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Rurik Skywalker's avatar

What is best in life? To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.

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Bartolo's avatar

I have better ideas about what to do with the womons than 'listening' to their lamentations.

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Mofwoofoo's avatar

This is the way of the animal kingdom; Might Makes Right. This is what has kept humanity from advancing for a few thousand years. With our special form of consciousness, we have the ability to live in a more humane way. To live like an animal, of which we are, and not use our special kind of consciousness to live humanely, seems to me to be an abombination. We have this gift and instead of using it, we resort to our animal instincts. You seem so intelligent and I believe that you want a just world, so I don't understand your attitude. Perhaps, you could explain?

Someone dominates, the warlords of before and the techno-warlords of today, until they are killed and someone else dominates. Why would you want to perpetuate this?

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Rurik Skywalker's avatar

> Why would you want to perpetuate this?

It's really just a matter of who is on top. If it's me and mine, I have no problem with it.

In fact, once me and mine had taken power, I'd promote and subsidize hippies like you to keep my enemies weak and complacent - caught up in utopian pining and oblivious to harsh realities. People like you would be my greatest allies.

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Mofwoofoo's avatar

I don't like someone over me, and I don't need to be over anyone. I like equality and freedom. You will become if you are not already just another narcissist who is so arrogant as to believe that you should control others, and haven't learned compassion or empathy. People with this archaic attitude are a dime a dozen these daze. They are the nazi/'eugenicists who would just as soon kill most everyone and are the main controllers, and are as common as all the sick, traumatized individuals you find everywhere you go.

You just want to perpetuate the ugly paradigm that has brought humanity to the abyss as long as you are the winner. Seems childish, You cannot be the new Hitler unless you get some nazi/eugenicists friends who will fund you. I am not against you personally, just amazed that you have such a twisted philosophy.

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Rurik Skywalker's avatar

The hippy boomer shows up to call people speaking truth to power Nazis.

You are why we are in the sorry state we are in.

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Maksim's avatar

A simple litmus test for sincerity and good faith was him being provided with introductory materials,ignoring them and continuing to butt into the conversation trying to brow beat people into his world view.Not good faith and not sincere.

Some time ago I acquired the zen like ability to let people be wrong on the internet so I just don't engage with him anymore,but if he REALLY didn't care he wouldn't come back with an essay when you quoted fucking Conan at him.It's a constant that activists take themselves way too seriously.

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Frantic's avatar

The entirety of your writing is just feel-good platitudes.

If confronted with reality, for instance if called to solve the situation Rolo's friend is facing/faced - about neighbourhood trees being felled in order for grifters to skim a meagre profit out of a planting-new-trees city budget scheme - your "philosophy" will be totally useless. You'd be a joke, the human pettiness of all the miserable competing interests involved will trample and overwhelm you.

What you do is classic virtue signalling: you take the moral high ground, because you gather that here no one is interested in it.

What we really want is to get to the truth no matter how ugly it is, and formulate practical heuristics to deal with the pettiness of real human interaction, where hierarchies are fluid and unstable and everyone is out for their own interest (e.g. your interest in coming here is to flaunt your virtue. In the social settings you are accustomed to this may give you some prestige, but this is not your social setting, here you just sound ridiculous and out of touch. So yours is not a practical heuristic).

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Mofwoofoo's avatar

I understand your skepticism, your cynicism. But you judge me without knowing anything about me. And I can see how you might imagine that I am virtue signalling, because many do that. And I do believe in living by principles and have been for many years.

What is the social setting you are talking about? I lived in SF from 1967 to 2004 and was an activist there, among other activities. Now, I have lived 5 years in an intentional community on the border of Germany and Holland and then ended up founding a mostly latino, artist eco-community in Ecuador, which is almost 10 years old now. I am still an activist and we are fighting for the sovereignty of both Ecuador and the individual.

I don't look to politicians for anything except lies. Horizontal governance would end politicians. I have some small hope that Ecuador might be the first country to adapt it. But it's a longshot.

Your cynical stance can imagine that what I write are platitudes, which is hardly the case. You imagine that I seek prestige. But this is just a reflection of something inside yourself. I could care less about the opinions of others. I stopped competing and comparing years ago. You may not be able to recognize what is true when it is presented to you, due to your particular slant that seems somewhat arrogant. Arrogance blinds people.

You sound like some wounded puppy that stands alone in defiance. I share that defiance, but not from the wounded puppy angle. It's because I am sick of injustices, corruption, deceit, and cruelty. And I will do whatever I can to end it.

I present real strategies, not make-believe, gonna beat up everyone bs. I have years of experiencing face to face with the SF police in their battle garb. They all knew me by name and never hurt me once, though they did hurt my friends/comrades at times and arrested us a lot. I was lucky.

Show some restraint in judging others who you don't know, you will appear much wiser. My enemies are narcissistic, arrogant fools. When much younger I have stood up to violence many times with non-violence and never got hurt. One never knows how brave one might be the next time, and I hope I don't have to find out.

I don't have to hate you for having different ideas, we overlap on many. If your ideas make more sense than mine, I will gratefully agree. I am not attached to my opinions or any beliefs. I am only attached to my principles.

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