5D crowd for last few years : don't believe anything from western media , all fake news, especially CNN
5D crowd yesterday: CNN is reporting the US govt knew about the coup in advance which confirms we are correct and Prigozhin is a US asset.
The one name on your list that gets a pass from me is Eva Bartlett. She has put herself in grave physical danger several times, most notably on the ground in Syria so she has earned some respect and I will never shit on her. Also she is very active in supporting rescuing and sheltering dogs... I like dogs, much more than people
Prigozhin has captured the heart of the Russian street. No matter what happens to Russian Forces fighting in Ukraine now, people will say "Prigozhin was right."
Check out this video by Patrick Lancaster, a uniquely fair Russian-speaking American war reporter married to a Donetsk woman -- in Rostov-on-Don, Russia, 10 hours ago.
With literally tons of crazy weapons everywhere, the crowd cheers and chases Prighozhin's SUV through the street as though he were a rockstar. He fearlessly rolls down his window to shake hands. Impressive.
I saw Patrick's video earlier to day and I noticed how surprised he was at the very friendly reception the Wagner boys were getting from the Rostov crowd , obviously he expected the locals to be anti Wagner , the opposite is true.
The above clip (which I posted here and on Edward Slavsquat yesterday) has been widely circulated by Redacted, a YT channel with 2M followers for whom Patrick Lancaster now provides exclusive content. They ran with a 'this was a western intelligence psy-op tied to the US 6.2B accounting error benefitting more funds to Ukraine".
That I actually believe.
Because the no. 1 imperative of all western nations is to give more money to Ukraine.
Whether we have it or want to give it, is irrelevant.
Wagner is seriously starting to remind me of the Alpha Legion. Whose side are they actually on? Are they loyalist or traitors? Whose setting their agenda? Prigozhin is like Alpharius with the dropping nuclear truth bombs amongst lots of misleading noise and lies...and the false flags. He can be anything to anyone. To the 5D low rent prole feed venders "look he said the war should be put on hold and the Ukrainians werent murdering Donetsk residents on purpose he is a traitor" but he is also telling nothing but the truth about Shoigu and his association with Utkin would strongly suggest its not that cut and dry. But than what exactly is the relationship between Utkin and Prigozhin? Are they even on the same page as far as their goals? Remember Alpharius and Omegon ended up going their seperate ways during the Horus Heresy and both were claiming to have done so for the Emperor.
Rolo said yesterday thay Prigozhin is like a Yeltsin figure and thats totally plausible. Even likely given his ethnic background. I guess the most surface level guess would be he is the Oligarchs representative in Wagner and Utkin is GRUs. Its a shame we dont any legitimate investigave journalist with the funding, time and resources who can dig into this because what exactly is going on with Wagner is peak ambiguous.
> "Putin: we are here to protect Russians, Ukrainian Russians. We mean no harm to other Ukrainians but leave Ukrainian Russians alone."
When & where did Putin say those words? His entire tenure he has been rejecting Russian nationalism. Sure, he wrote that one article in the summer of 2021 - don't remember its content precisely, it was roughly about living in peace together.
And your idea about there being "Russian Ukrainians" as different from the "Ukrainian Ukrainians" is pure nonsense to Russian nationalists, as Ukrainians are a conglomeration of various southern Russian subethnicities, with fake Bolshevik statehood.
Prigojin is a lying scum because he led and cheered on the useless and criminal Bakhmut assault. How can anyone forget that? The entire Russian leadership is full of traitors, by all accounts. "Not kindling a civil war" is not worth a medal of honour.
Bit of a mishmash your post. You just chucked it out or you wanted serious consideration given to it?
I'll attempt a little.
. Putin and Russians.
subsection (a) What Putin said:
We could say I paraphrased or summed up. I think there's no doubt Putin's stance is as I said.
You can research it, ask around.
subsection (b) rejecting Russian nationalism. False. He constantly quotes 'multiracial, multinational' Russia. That is: a Russian nation that is of this type, that type and so on. He's defining a Russian nation, Russian people and is fiercely for them.
His 'greatest evil' (or something, I forget exactly) was the fall of the USSR. Why does he claim that? Because, he says, it left millions of Russians orphaned. Suddenly stuck as foreigners in other lands and often treated very badly.
. Russian Ukrainians. This is a difficult sentence. A 'straw man' example I believe. For it says that to Russian nationalists (all, we can assume) Ukrainians are Russians. But I never ascribed any beliefs or attitudes to 'Russian nationalists'. There's your straw man.
I was and am talking about the world as seen by Kiev under the US induced coma. Donbas Ukrainians are 'Russians' to them and they've sworn to eliminate that Russian-ness.
As you well know. And they began seriously in 2014 with an invasion and they are still there.
. Prigozhin. We can put aside the venom as unnecessary waste of space. But 'criminal Bakhmut assault' ? There was a Bakhmut assault alright. But it happened when Kiev Ukraine took Bakhmut in 2014. Prigozhin and his forces took it back. And it was necessary to take it back. It is necessary to take back the whole of the Donbas and give it back to the Donbas people.
. Russian leadership. Well that's the impression Rolo gives and Prigozhin and others. Such as I glean information as well as we can and are keen to find out. This could be the week. If Shoigu and Gerasimov's mishandling and interference, obstruction and sabotage of the war effort are proven in any detail and yet they are left in office then it is clear and unavoidably true that Putin is at the centre of a cabal of self interested manipulators with their own interests at heart and essentially impervious to the welfare of the Russian people at large. So I'd hope to god there's someone better in the wings somewhere.
Do I have the honour of conversing with a 5D fellow, my monseigneur?
1. If you are calling Putin a civil nationalist, you are effectively admitting his complicity in the genocide of ethnic Russians under the tide of Chechen and Uzbek "citizens".
2. There's no straw man in designating men as men, women as women, and Little Russians as Russians. Putin is as queer as the homosexualist Westerners when he recognises the separate Ukrainian state.
3. The Bakhmut assault only serves America, because the city has no strategic value, it's notched in the middle of Ukrainian fortifications which can be easily bypassed either through Poltava from the north or Pavlograd from the south.
The simple answer to that is by accident or design, the constant gaslighting over the past several years taught people to question all media they consume (Even Rolo's).
Edit: That was not an attempt to throw shade at Rolo in any way. He's been calling things much more accurately than anyone else that I have been reading.
They became more then mercenaries, they became everything the Russia army should have been. Without judeo-mongol influence. Russian army commanders dont give a shit about their men, they still have that soviet ww2 mentality.
Aussie Cossack is apparently holed up at Russian embassy in Australia seeking asylum.( not quite up to date on his current status) due to intolerable harassment from the Police for having the massive balls to defy them & protest lockdowns. He regularly made complete mugs out of hapless cops who appeared totally clueless on the state of the world (as 95% of Aussies have ably demonstrated is the “ norm” here.)
I do believe he is still on YouTube, good fun & never short of a mischievous response, the establishment HATE HIM. Aussie media is pathetic level Vanguard flunkies & the-locals lap it up. P.S. Aussies are not as friendly as the P.R. makes them out to be anymore. Everyone is quietly shitting themselves so they just “don’t talk about the crocodile in the room smiling at them”
dude, Australian lockdowns lasted until late 2021 (they didn't let Djokovic in for the Australian open in Jan '22) and they were complete with curfew and suspension of the law (cops did not need warrant to enter your home). Australia is more cucked than Canada, if you can believe it.
Langley is second tier at best. They are nowhere near the top of Puppet Mastery. They are the grunt soldiers. Because of compartmentalization within everything-Washington, they THINK they're elité.
"But it was Lukashenko who averted a crisis, not Putin, who actually escalated the situation needlessly by calling for the death of Wagner/labelling them terrorists just like the Kremlin’s overlords in Langley do, as a matter of fact, for those paying attention, only to reverse his position not 12 hours later, shit his pants, and drop all charges."
Ergo, Putin et al. must be second or first tier, which accords with Rose's statement that "WEF, WHO, USA, NATO, government etc. are only small performers."
Fellow commenter, Rose, made the astute observation:
"All your famous hero's are gatekeepers
Worship 'Rescuers' and you will relinquish your power."
Certainly the Trump followers prove this case. They've relinquished their power to Trump. What's his legacy? Creating a huge conservative base/counter movement for the Masters' Hegelian Dialectic. The sides have never been farther apart in America. You can't play Hegel without stark, contrasting sides for the dialectic to play!
Strangely, Trump appointed nearly all Neocons who ended up "backstabbing" him. He couldn't help himself. He just kept appointing all these backstabbers who basically nullified his election. He began building a southern wall and did little else. They always do so. They have one or two projects they throw to the Proletariat to say, "See? I fulfilled my promises."
I like Prigozhin. He's an extremely vibrantly colorful character in a drab prison world. Who wouldn't support someone who looks like they can get something...anything...done?
But who is Prigozhin and why did he abort his mission 120 miles outside Moscow? If he didn't have a ready base in Moscow to provide capture and a successful coup, why did he begin this campaign? Is Prigozhin another gatekeeper? To keep the masses pacified? "Look! There's a guy who can get something done!! I'm not so depressed now. I have hope!!" Wave your flags and shake his hand...just like they do for Trump.
The world is a giant "Waiting for Godot" play. No one really moves. Nothing really happens. Oh, wait. Sorry. Yes, something did happen. The rich got incredibly richer and the poor got incredibly poorer. Greater authoritarian controls were levied against all citizens worldwide with impunity. Local police everywhere reenacted The Stanford Experiment and became SS. Btw, Belarus is ~70% vaxxed which is equivalent to the U.S. percentage. How different Belarus is!! They couldn't, mercy me, be apart of the NWO??? After all, Luka famously didn't lockdown. Did you catch the shell game?
An incredible number of billionaires were created via the Covid Caper while the middle classes everywhere fell like soldiers against the encroaching Totalitarian Curtain.
nicely put. Elites of the past realized long time ago they need to keep giving peasants the idea, the promise of a Savior. This gives people hope, which is extremely powerful. First, without hope, in truly bad conditions peasants might rise up - who needs that headache?. Second, if there is a savior on a horizon, they found out that the flock calms down.. If we just calmly wait and then elect Trump - things will be so much better... and time goes by..
So true, impy. No one wants a diversion to go to waste. Look how angry Russia and America are today towards one another. Each accusing the other of nefarious means and motives. The Controllers have done an extraordinary job. Bread and circuses!!! Step up, ladies and gentlemen!!
“We wait. We are bored. No, don’t protest, we are bored to death, there’s no denying it. Good. A diversion comes along and what do we do? We let it go to waste. ...In an instant, all will vanish and we’ll be alone once more, in the midst of nothingness.” "Waiting for Godot"
🗨 There is an inherent blindness to the psyche to discount anything that might undo it's basic set of beliefs.
In essence (in a sense? 🤭), maps onto what you call a religious motivation, just sans religion. Our sanity rests on implicit assumption that the world model we developed over our lifetime matches the reality over there. The mind recognises this crucial role of core belief structure, and skilfully goes to great lengths to safeguard against its collapse.
There's only so much (very not very much) contradictory evidence we can take in before the safety valve jumps into action and shuts off the input dead. No mental processing takes place from this point on. Hence the widely-mocked telltale glazed look you typically get from NPCs when trying to reason them out of the current thing™ 🤷
Very sorry to see Shoigu is still on his feet and cruising around.
This indicates to me that Putin has refused to get the message which proves Russia is in deep trouble because it's run by a band of bandits.
UNLESS someone can show that Shoigu and Gerasimov were/are NOT the de facto saboteurs of the war effort that Prigozhin claims them to be.
The question, surely, needs to be aired and settled. Do the Russian people not know about this question or what? I was of the impression they knew it and thought it settled in the affirmative: they ARE saboteurs.
They ARE; actually, there are discussions now that they may be removed or at least, stripped of some power. If it doesn't happen, that will mean that Putin is siding with apparat rather than with people. We shall see
Did you see where Putin was interviewed by someone and they asked him 'can you forgive?' and Putin said 'Yes'. 'But not everything'.
'What can't you forgive?' I'm not sure on this but I think Putin said 'Treachery'.
Well to my mind there's been clear treachery if Prigozhin is right and the (apparent) popular believe is right: Shoigu and Gerasimov sabotage the war effort.
To do that they would have to lie to Putin.
That's clear treachery. Of your trusted closest confidants and lieutenants.
Or: he gave Prigozhin a position of high trust and responsibility and Prigozhin was apparently on the verge of starting a civil war in order to impeach his valued highest officers. That would be treachery.
There has been treachery to my mind.
To my mind that's why Putin said that word. (if he did. and if the whole thing was real and I haven't seen some fabricated thing as can happen these days).
So I would expect a clear result sooner or later. Very clear.
This situation with Wagner reminds me of GoT where Robb Stark makes the mistake of executing Karstark. The question then is: at what point is the Red Wedding? The fun of sparring with 5-D judo masters aside - though it is fun to watch - it's difficult to see how one can convince themselves that things are going well. The fog of war has its benefits, I suppose.
And congrats on having a killer word as your name! Take it sincerely from a guy whose name tends to bring up references to a smiley, animated cat.
Rolo: "Evidence is mounting that points to this being an inter-oligarchic spat between several factions of oligarchs who prey like wraiths on the Slavlands with ease from their lair in Israel. In particular, the drama centers around one oligarch in particular, Viktor Medvedchuk, and his arrest, which was almost certainly the precipitating event that triggered the Slavlands Civil War"
Total nonsense. Medvedchuk was arrest in April 2022, more than a month after the beginning of the operation.
looks like Rolo fell for the "Surovikin in prison" hoax. Surovikin was one of the first to come out against Prigoshin's march. Rolo has turned from clueless dreamer to clueless doomer.
The latest from Pravda.ru - Russian online publication very much associated with Putin.
1. If Prigozhin's 'March for Justice' did not happen, we would have to invent it.
2. The President was misled by Shoigu. Filtration of information delivered to the president is a problem, and it has to be fixed.
3. Shoigu didn't act like a man when he failed to show in Rostov to talks with 'most effective military commander - Prigozhin'
4. True traitors are not Wagner, but those who either called them traitors, or, in spite of being public figures, failed to express any opinion - waiting for the outcome.
5. Wagner is not against the president; if anything, they against those who stand on the way of more efficient conduct of this war.
6. Elections are coming - nothing will be same as before. The President is better to listen to people.
Finally, Putin is expected to deliver yet another address tonight or tomorrow morning.
I feel compelled to comment and Im not sure why. Its hard to make sense of all this Holly wood(Occult). Meanwhile in the trenches people are dying from artillery that hasnt been sent. Organ harvesting and children trafficking is big business. Or so they say. So is arms and drugs. And prostitution. Anyone making money out of war is Antichrist. Im going hard here because the lines are blurred and it's a long walk home in the snow. Let me just say that Im an African with Irish blood and I understand the Irish a little but Russians are impenetrable. Rolo are you exiled ? Anyway I dont like Prigozin, Putins doubles speech(this one looks a bit vampirish) was vicious, I dont like Shoigu. I have experience with African politics and this puts us to shame. It is the end of days
5D crowd for last few years : don't believe anything from western media , all fake news, especially CNN
5D crowd yesterday: CNN is reporting the US govt knew about the coup in advance which confirms we are correct and Prigozhin is a US asset.
The one name on your list that gets a pass from me is Eva Bartlett. She has put herself in grave physical danger several times, most notably on the ground in Syria so she has earned some respect and I will never shit on her. Also she is very active in supporting rescuing and sheltering dogs... I like dogs, much more than people
Prigozhin has captured the heart of the Russian street. No matter what happens to Russian Forces fighting in Ukraine now, people will say "Prigozhin was right."
Check out this video by Patrick Lancaster, a uniquely fair Russian-speaking American war reporter married to a Donetsk woman -- in Rostov-on-Don, Russia, 10 hours ago.
"With Wagner "Coup" Leaving Russia (Exclusive Prigozhin) Special Report" ... https://youtu.be/7qvFQJEyjwA
With literally tons of crazy weapons everywhere, the crowd cheers and chases Prighozhin's SUV through the street as though he were a rockstar. He fearlessly rolls down his window to shake hands. Impressive.
Yep, a good one that. Excellent. And Patrick in the finest form, far more eloquent than usual.
:)
I saw Patrick's video earlier to day and I noticed how surprised he was at the very friendly reception the Wagner boys were getting from the Rostov crowd , obviously he expected the locals to be anti Wagner , the opposite is true.
The above clip (which I posted here and on Edward Slavsquat yesterday) has been widely circulated by Redacted, a YT channel with 2M followers for whom Patrick Lancaster now provides exclusive content. They ran with a 'this was a western intelligence psy-op tied to the US 6.2B accounting error benefitting more funds to Ukraine".
That I actually believe.
Because the no. 1 imperative of all western nations is to give more money to Ukraine.
Whether we have it or want to give it, is irrelevant.
Wagner is seriously starting to remind me of the Alpha Legion. Whose side are they actually on? Are they loyalist or traitors? Whose setting their agenda? Prigozhin is like Alpharius with the dropping nuclear truth bombs amongst lots of misleading noise and lies...and the false flags. He can be anything to anyone. To the 5D low rent prole feed venders "look he said the war should be put on hold and the Ukrainians werent murdering Donetsk residents on purpose he is a traitor" but he is also telling nothing but the truth about Shoigu and his association with Utkin would strongly suggest its not that cut and dry. But than what exactly is the relationship between Utkin and Prigozhin? Are they even on the same page as far as their goals? Remember Alpharius and Omegon ended up going their seperate ways during the Horus Heresy and both were claiming to have done so for the Emperor.
Rolo said yesterday thay Prigozhin is like a Yeltsin figure and thats totally plausible. Even likely given his ethnic background. I guess the most surface level guess would be he is the Oligarchs representative in Wagner and Utkin is GRUs. Its a shame we dont any legitimate investigave journalist with the funding, time and resources who can dig into this because what exactly is going on with Wagner is peak ambiguous.
If i was in russia, id take on the task!
I'd love to meet utkin.
Why not take things at face value? Everything? No one seems to do it any more. The influence of the lying West?
Putin: we are here to protect Russians, Ukrainian Russians. We mean no harm to other Ukrainians but leave Ukrainian Russians alone.
Prigozhin: Shoigu etc. are crippling the war effort and worse.
Maybe those really are the way things are.
Agreed , so many folk can only see events through 5D conspiracy glasses .
> "Putin: we are here to protect Russians, Ukrainian Russians. We mean no harm to other Ukrainians but leave Ukrainian Russians alone."
When & where did Putin say those words? His entire tenure he has been rejecting Russian nationalism. Sure, he wrote that one article in the summer of 2021 - don't remember its content precisely, it was roughly about living in peace together.
And your idea about there being "Russian Ukrainians" as different from the "Ukrainian Ukrainians" is pure nonsense to Russian nationalists, as Ukrainians are a conglomeration of various southern Russian subethnicities, with fake Bolshevik statehood.
Prigojin is a lying scum because he led and cheered on the useless and criminal Bakhmut assault. How can anyone forget that? The entire Russian leadership is full of traitors, by all accounts. "Not kindling a civil war" is not worth a medal of honour.
Bit of a mishmash your post. You just chucked it out or you wanted serious consideration given to it?
I'll attempt a little.
. Putin and Russians.
subsection (a) What Putin said:
We could say I paraphrased or summed up. I think there's no doubt Putin's stance is as I said.
You can research it, ask around.
subsection (b) rejecting Russian nationalism. False. He constantly quotes 'multiracial, multinational' Russia. That is: a Russian nation that is of this type, that type and so on. He's defining a Russian nation, Russian people and is fiercely for them.
His 'greatest evil' (or something, I forget exactly) was the fall of the USSR. Why does he claim that? Because, he says, it left millions of Russians orphaned. Suddenly stuck as foreigners in other lands and often treated very badly.
. Russian Ukrainians. This is a difficult sentence. A 'straw man' example I believe. For it says that to Russian nationalists (all, we can assume) Ukrainians are Russians. But I never ascribed any beliefs or attitudes to 'Russian nationalists'. There's your straw man.
I was and am talking about the world as seen by Kiev under the US induced coma. Donbas Ukrainians are 'Russians' to them and they've sworn to eliminate that Russian-ness.
As you well know. And they began seriously in 2014 with an invasion and they are still there.
. Prigozhin. We can put aside the venom as unnecessary waste of space. But 'criminal Bakhmut assault' ? There was a Bakhmut assault alright. But it happened when Kiev Ukraine took Bakhmut in 2014. Prigozhin and his forces took it back. And it was necessary to take it back. It is necessary to take back the whole of the Donbas and give it back to the Donbas people.
. Russian leadership. Well that's the impression Rolo gives and Prigozhin and others. Such as I glean information as well as we can and are keen to find out. This could be the week. If Shoigu and Gerasimov's mishandling and interference, obstruction and sabotage of the war effort are proven in any detail and yet they are left in office then it is clear and unavoidably true that Putin is at the centre of a cabal of self interested manipulators with their own interests at heart and essentially impervious to the welfare of the Russian people at large. So I'd hope to god there's someone better in the wings somewhere.
Do I have the honour of conversing with a 5D fellow, my monseigneur?
1. If you are calling Putin a civil nationalist, you are effectively admitting his complicity in the genocide of ethnic Russians under the tide of Chechen and Uzbek "citizens".
2. There's no straw man in designating men as men, women as women, and Little Russians as Russians. Putin is as queer as the homosexualist Westerners when he recognises the separate Ukrainian state.
3. The Bakhmut assault only serves America, because the city has no strategic value, it's notched in the middle of Ukrainian fortifications which can be easily bypassed either through Poltava from the north or Pavlograd from the south.
4. At least on the last point we could agree.
The simple answer to that is by accident or design, the constant gaslighting over the past several years taught people to question all media they consume (Even Rolo's).
Edit: That was not an attempt to throw shade at Rolo in any way. He's been calling things much more accurately than anyone else that I have been reading.
yes indeed and I wouldn't change that one bit.
But we have to remember that truth does exist. Include that possibility in our calculations.
When it comes to Russia we can put it at the head of possibilities to be reckoned.
When it comes to the USA and UK we can put it last of possibilities to be reckoned.
The satrapies, of course, have no voice of their own. Unless its the voice of the castrato.
They became more then mercenaries, they became everything the Russia army should have been. Without judeo-mongol influence. Russian army commanders dont give a shit about their men, they still have that soviet ww2 mentality.
Aussie Cossack is apparently holed up at Russian embassy in Australia seeking asylum.( not quite up to date on his current status) due to intolerable harassment from the Police for having the massive balls to defy them & protest lockdowns. He regularly made complete mugs out of hapless cops who appeared totally clueless on the state of the world (as 95% of Aussies have ably demonstrated is the “ norm” here.)
I do believe he is still on YouTube, good fun & never short of a mischievous response, the establishment HATE HIM. Aussie media is pathetic level Vanguard flunkies & the-locals lap it up. P.S. Aussies are not as friendly as the P.R. makes them out to be anymore. Everyone is quietly shitting themselves so they just “don’t talk about the crocodile in the room smiling at them”
Fascinating. So is he a Russian?
Russia did hard lockdowns as well. Belarus didn't.
dude, Australian lockdowns lasted until late 2021 (they didn't let Djokovic in for the Australian open in Jan '22) and they were complete with curfew and suspension of the law (cops did not need warrant to enter your home). Australia is more cucked than Canada, if you can believe it.
No, he is not a Russian, he is some sort of central Asian mixture.
Simeon Boitkov, Sydney's Chief Propgandist for Russia's Invasion into Ukraine
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/putin-needed-to-do-this-aussie-cossack-finds-method-in-russia-s-madness-20230626-p5djiz.html
Thanks, really insightful analysis
Langley is second tier at best. They are nowhere near the top of Puppet Mastery. They are the grunt soldiers. Because of compartmentalization within everything-Washington, they THINK they're elité.
"But it was Lukashenko who averted a crisis, not Putin, who actually escalated the situation needlessly by calling for the death of Wagner/labelling them terrorists just like the Kremlin’s overlords in Langley do, as a matter of fact, for those paying attention, only to reverse his position not 12 hours later, shit his pants, and drop all charges."
Ergo, Putin et al. must be second or first tier, which accords with Rose's statement that "WEF, WHO, USA, NATO, government etc. are only small performers."
Lukashenko? He made a hue and cry about IMF demanding lockdowns, etc. for money. However, Aug, 21, 2021, "IMF awards Belarus $1B to fight coronavirus." https://www.politico.eu/article/imf-awards-belarus-one-billion-fight-covid/
This was after a 90 million Euro loan from The World Bank May 22, 2020. https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2020/05/22/world-bank-supports-belarus-covid19-response-with-eur90-million-financing
Which side do you think Luka plays?
Fellow commenter, Rose, made the astute observation:
"All your famous hero's are gatekeepers
Worship 'Rescuers' and you will relinquish your power."
Certainly the Trump followers prove this case. They've relinquished their power to Trump. What's his legacy? Creating a huge conservative base/counter movement for the Masters' Hegelian Dialectic. The sides have never been farther apart in America. You can't play Hegel without stark, contrasting sides for the dialectic to play!
Strangely, Trump appointed nearly all Neocons who ended up "backstabbing" him. He couldn't help himself. He just kept appointing all these backstabbers who basically nullified his election. He began building a southern wall and did little else. They always do so. They have one or two projects they throw to the Proletariat to say, "See? I fulfilled my promises."
I like Prigozhin. He's an extremely vibrantly colorful character in a drab prison world. Who wouldn't support someone who looks like they can get something...anything...done?
But who is Prigozhin and why did he abort his mission 120 miles outside Moscow? If he didn't have a ready base in Moscow to provide capture and a successful coup, why did he begin this campaign? Is Prigozhin another gatekeeper? To keep the masses pacified? "Look! There's a guy who can get something done!! I'm not so depressed now. I have hope!!" Wave your flags and shake his hand...just like they do for Trump.
The world is a giant "Waiting for Godot" play. No one really moves. Nothing really happens. Oh, wait. Sorry. Yes, something did happen. The rich got incredibly richer and the poor got incredibly poorer. Greater authoritarian controls were levied against all citizens worldwide with impunity. Local police everywhere reenacted The Stanford Experiment and became SS. Btw, Belarus is ~70% vaxxed which is equivalent to the U.S. percentage. How different Belarus is!! They couldn't, mercy me, be apart of the NWO??? After all, Luka famously didn't lockdown. Did you catch the shell game?
An incredible number of billionaires were created via the Covid Caper while the middle classes everywhere fell like soldiers against the encroaching Totalitarian Curtain.
btw. you can find Lukashenko on WEF site:
https://www.weforum.org/people/alexander-lukashenko.
"The world is a giant "Waiting for Godot" play.."
nicely put. Elites of the past realized long time ago they need to keep giving peasants the idea, the promise of a Savior. This gives people hope, which is extremely powerful. First, without hope, in truly bad conditions peasants might rise up - who needs that headache?. Second, if there is a savior on a horizon, they found out that the flock calms down.. If we just calmly wait and then elect Trump - things will be so much better... and time goes by..
So true, impy. No one wants a diversion to go to waste. Look how angry Russia and America are today towards one another. Each accusing the other of nefarious means and motives. The Controllers have done an extraordinary job. Bread and circuses!!! Step up, ladies and gentlemen!!
“We wait. We are bored. No, don’t protest, we are bored to death, there’s no denying it. Good. A diversion comes along and what do we do? We let it go to waste. ...In an instant, all will vanish and we’ll be alone once more, in the midst of nothingness.” "Waiting for Godot"
💬 Those are the three main categories
Let’s not discount a meta one as it were 😊:
🗨 There is an inherent blindness to the psyche to discount anything that might undo it's basic set of beliefs.
In essence (in a sense? 🤭), maps onto what you call a religious motivation, just sans religion. Our sanity rests on implicit assumption that the world model we developed over our lifetime matches the reality over there. The mind recognises this crucial role of core belief structure, and skilfully goes to great lengths to safeguard against its collapse.
There's only so much (very not very much) contradictory evidence we can take in before the safety valve jumps into action and shuts off the input dead. No mental processing takes place from this point on. Hence the widely-mocked telltale glazed look you typically get from NPCs when trying to reason them out of the current thing™ 🤷
Very sorry to see Shoigu is still on his feet and cruising around.
This indicates to me that Putin has refused to get the message which proves Russia is in deep trouble because it's run by a band of bandits.
UNLESS someone can show that Shoigu and Gerasimov were/are NOT the de facto saboteurs of the war effort that Prigozhin claims them to be.
The question, surely, needs to be aired and settled. Do the Russian people not know about this question or what? I was of the impression they knew it and thought it settled in the affirmative: they ARE saboteurs.
They ARE; actually, there are discussions now that they may be removed or at least, stripped of some power. If it doesn't happen, that will mean that Putin is siding with apparat rather than with people. We shall see
Did you see where Putin was interviewed by someone and they asked him 'can you forgive?' and Putin said 'Yes'. 'But not everything'.
'What can't you forgive?' I'm not sure on this but I think Putin said 'Treachery'.
Well to my mind there's been clear treachery if Prigozhin is right and the (apparent) popular believe is right: Shoigu and Gerasimov sabotage the war effort.
To do that they would have to lie to Putin.
That's clear treachery. Of your trusted closest confidants and lieutenants.
Or: he gave Prigozhin a position of high trust and responsibility and Prigozhin was apparently on the verge of starting a civil war in order to impeach his valued highest officers. That would be treachery.
There has been treachery to my mind.
To my mind that's why Putin said that word. (if he did. and if the whole thing was real and I haven't seen some fabricated thing as can happen these days).
So I would expect a clear result sooner or later. Very clear.
I agree, it will be very clear very soon. We shall see
Prigozhin showed the kremlin how an SMO should be done
This situation with Wagner reminds me of GoT where Robb Stark makes the mistake of executing Karstark. The question then is: at what point is the Red Wedding? The fun of sparring with 5-D judo masters aside - though it is fun to watch - it's difficult to see how one can convince themselves that things are going well. The fog of war has its benefits, I suppose.
And congrats on having a killer word as your name! Take it sincerely from a guy whose name tends to bring up references to a smiley, animated cat.
It could be worse. Your name could be a synonym for wanking or stealing.
Fair point.
This is how a rational analysis of the Wagner stunt looks like: https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/06/prigozhins-farce-is-over-and-it-is-clear-who-has-won-.html
Giraldi also gets a slight pass because he is the most high profile person to consistently shred the chicken swingers.
Rolo: "Evidence is mounting that points to this being an inter-oligarchic spat between several factions of oligarchs who prey like wraiths on the Slavlands with ease from their lair in Israel. In particular, the drama centers around one oligarch in particular, Viktor Medvedchuk, and his arrest, which was almost certainly the precipitating event that triggered the Slavlands Civil War"
Total nonsense. Medvedchuk was arrest in April 2022, more than a month after the beginning of the operation.
looks like Rolo fell for the "Surovikin in prison" hoax. Surovikin was one of the first to come out against Prigoshin's march. Rolo has turned from clueless dreamer to clueless doomer.
The latest from Pravda.ru - Russian online publication very much associated with Putin.
1. If Prigozhin's 'March for Justice' did not happen, we would have to invent it.
2. The President was misled by Shoigu. Filtration of information delivered to the president is a problem, and it has to be fixed.
3. Shoigu didn't act like a man when he failed to show in Rostov to talks with 'most effective military commander - Prigozhin'
4. True traitors are not Wagner, but those who either called them traitors, or, in spite of being public figures, failed to express any opinion - waiting for the outcome.
5. Wagner is not against the president; if anything, they against those who stand on the way of more efficient conduct of this war.
6. Elections are coming - nothing will be same as before. The President is better to listen to people.
Finally, Putin is expected to deliver yet another address tonight or tomorrow morning.
Check it out, Rolo! Great analysis, thank you!
I feel compelled to comment and Im not sure why. Its hard to make sense of all this Holly wood(Occult). Meanwhile in the trenches people are dying from artillery that hasnt been sent. Organ harvesting and children trafficking is big business. Or so they say. So is arms and drugs. And prostitution. Anyone making money out of war is Antichrist. Im going hard here because the lines are blurred and it's a long walk home in the snow. Let me just say that Im an African with Irish blood and I understand the Irish a little but Russians are impenetrable. Rolo are you exiled ? Anyway I dont like Prigozin, Putins doubles speech(this one looks a bit vampirish) was vicious, I dont like Shoigu. I have experience with African politics and this puts us to shame. It is the end of days