The US Declaration of Independence illegal? This clearly shows they have no clue whom they are fighting. The Western Empire currently centered in the US is a continuation of the British Empire. It is the empire of money. American Revolution was just and clearly Russians of that time knew this. Russians should be in favor of bringing back the American Republic which started with that Declaration. That Republic no longer exists, killed off by the Imperial Parasite, all enabled by treasonous Americans. The greatest threat to Russia comes from precisely parallel structures, treasonous Russians working for the Empire of Money.
You may not like it for whatever reasons but it most certainly wasn't Jacobin rot, since it precedes Jacobins. That is, unless you know something of which I am unaware.
The D of I was written in the era immediately preceding the French Revolution. Like all instances preceding the actual events, the philosophies are present and being shouted about - in this case referred to as "The Enlightenment" and its proto Marxist bilge - that T Jefferson thought was very cool. Official date of Amr Rev: 1776-1783. Fr Rev: 1789-circa 1799. Technically, the Jacobins didn't come into being as an identifiable faction until later - but you get the drift don't you ?
I catch your drift, but I don’t believe it is fair to compare Jacobins with the American Revolution. Also, don’t discount the destructive role British Secret Services played in the French Revolution. American Revolution was real, and the Empire never stopped meddling until they regained the control of the Colonies. They did it through banking and financiers, precisely as they intend to take over Russia. That is my central point. America wasn’t conquered from outside but from inside. The same awaits Russia.
I'm not comparing the so called American Revolution with Jacobins. The secession from the British Empire was put together by the "movers and shakers" of the day - the moneyed elite. They were not Jacobins by any stretch. T Jefferson was the Hippie of the bunch and went overboard on his fanciful D of I.
Pretty much the same picture as the "covid" measures.
Putin either was fed BS and believes it, or he is seriously in on the scam, and not really fence sitting.
What is clear to me, this carefully created myth of a man single-handedly running Russia is not true.
I think Putin gets way more credits for running things that he actually does run and control, which is probably little, just like any other political puppet with a "control file".
Like Potus in US, or more aptly, Pedus with the last ones.
Prigozhin just wants to restore the America that has disappeared. Does anything say "I'm just living the American Dream" more than a career trajectory of pimp, extorter, convict, hot dog salesman, catering/restaurant empire, owner of PMC? He's earned my respect
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Prigozhin is an ethnic neocon, no? That's quite the bold statement especially regarding the Declaration. Sure I'll take a sweet new AK-12, a couple cases of preloaded magazines and some battle rattle! Shit another WASR10 and the mags and ammo to go with it? Perhaps something a tad bit stronger? RPGs or something more anti-armor. Local PDs have no problem rolling up on people with armoured vehicles; at least give us an actual means of resistance!
I had hoped that the Russians would show the Emperor has no clothes but it feels like theyre just playing for time. Hopefully the opportunity arrises to thwart Clown World and give us a chance to salvage civilization. Always cling to the Good, Beautiful, and True.
I'm an outsider but I was writing comments like this a couple of years ago.
Elvira Nabiullina is probably the most egregious case. Thanks to her, Russia lost billions of rubles that had been kept in the West. And despite the fact that Russia is in a position to benefit from a classic Keynesian war-economy situation, she continues to pursue neoliberal austerity measures that stifle the economy in the name of controlling inflation.
She is probably the most important factor holding back the Russian economy. Why her and not Glazyev? That would take a real insider, but it doesn't make any sense to me. It's the one major area where Putin doesn't seem to understand the right course.
It is impossible not to understand. Judging by his oratory skills, Putin is highly intelligent. He must have learned something studying law in St. Petersburg. He is also a former high ranking intelligence officer, skilled in pretending he is your friend, while he is your enemy, which comes in handy when governing Russian people. There is only one explanation for the actions of Russian leaders: they want to destroy Russian economy. Why did many American small businesses have to close for two years? Why are food plants and chicken farms catching fires? The same answer: they have to be destroyed.
Of course, Russia's intelligence is compromised. Has it ever been explained who sent and why those two guys to Salisbury? The only purpose could be to make Russia's intelligence a laughingstock.
We are witnessing a mass suicide of the USA, EU and Russia. They are destroying their economies and cultures, so that the money owners can become even richer by issuing CBCD and moving the center of operations to the East. Now I am wondering whether the twentieth century's world wars were started for the same purpose, for the world to be destroyed, then rebuilt, old debts not collected, and new money issued.
I find the Wagner PMC fascinating. I keep wondering where that will all end up. I do not really have an opinion on it, but they are getting too well known to simply sink back into obscurity after the SMO ends.
There is probably a lot of money going through the PMC, and some of that will end up in places where influence can be bought. Some of that will probably also accumulate in certain places of the Russian society that rather stay out of the limelight (for now).
And what to think of training prisoner populations in the use of battlefield techniques and weapons?
Man, this is going to be interesting to follow for years on end!
Wagner statement is some trolling because US declared Wagner terrorists. But Wagner could consider sabotage ops in the West, against industry and energy (like pipelines). Or old-school against airplanes.
Putin has to keep some distance to the war: in case it fails, he can then blame generals or Shoygu or intelligence directors.
Putin cannot possibly be cut off from information because he was KGB and knows the system. Unless he has dementia due to old age. The most likely explanation is that he is growing senile. His first real failure was the Kharkiv debacle, so now debacles are new for Putin.
In 1989 the defense of Panama collapsed because the general in charge of the army in the mountains was secretly working for the USA. A few Syrian officers also were working for the USA. So this happens.
ALL our names are in the database that accesses the real-time downloads that the NSA keeps of all our correspondence in Bluffdale. To that extent, we're all under the Eye of Sauron, all equally in danger of attracting its attention, all equally helpless should its gaze fall upon any one of us. Helluva way to live.
Is this man really V. Putin sitting at a long long desk far away from people who know him personally? Why could Putin not be replaced by doubles like Western political actors such as Biden?
Golitsyn provides irrefutable proof that perestroika or “restructuring” is not a 1985 Gorbachev invention, but the final phase of a plan formulated during 1958-1960. Perestroika refers to the restructuring, not just of the Soviet system, but of the entire free world. It is the Soviet strategy for a “Second October Revolution”, a temporary, non-violent World Revolution involving controlled fake democratization and strategic disinformation. Communist leaders envisaged the convergence of Communist/socialist systems with restructured capitalist systems into the One-World Communist Government. They realized that convergence could only be achieved by transforming Stalinism into a “more attractive form” of “Communist democracy”. The KGB was reorganized to play a “key role in implementing the strategy”. Thirty years of rehearsal in countries such as Czechoslovakia, Poland and Romania prepared the ground for the final phase perestroika and the controlled false “democratization” of the USSR itself. That it is false is confirmed by Eduard Shevardnadze, Georgian president and a long-time Western “friend”. As late as 1993, he admitted that elections do not equal democracy.
Perestroika refers to the restructuring, not just of the Soviet system, but of the entire free world.
Perestroika is a game of mind-control based on the principles of Italian Communist Antonio Gramsci (1891-1937), who devised a new, improved model of Marxist-Leninism. Gorbachev was chosen to launch it. Perestroika is psychological warfare, involving the use of “cooperation-blackmail”. A “theatrical display of democratism [is] designed to convince the West that a decisive Break with the Past has taken place”. This encourages Western governments to collaborate with the “former” Communists. At the same time, there is a threat of a “return to the Cold War or worse if the West does not cooperate”. Golitsyn demonstrates that every “crisis”, from Tienamen Square to the fake August 91 coup attempt to Chechnya, has been deliberately designed according to the cooperation-blackmail equation. The “new forces of democracy” are shown locked in mortal combat with the “conservative hard-liners” and the West is told that only its cooperation and large infusions of aid will help the “fledgling democracies” to survive. The Communist price for peace is thus the restructuring of Western thinking and policies.
It's a nice offer, but does Wagner have any idea how many weapons 'maga' people are already in possession of? They should visit Texas, Oklahoma, Idaho, eastern Washington State, West Virginia, Kentucky, Alabama, eastern ranch land California, ranch lands Colorado, Montana, etc. America is so gunned up it's ridiculous, problem is, so far, they don't use them.
The guns seem to be a pacifier. Once the gun craze started in the 70s and guns went from a tool to all you need to be free, Americans quit fighting back in any meaningful way.
Every time the globalist left advances, the right buys more guns and ammo and warns the left not to do it again. Repeat.
Someone has to be delusional after the Covid tyranny to think that guns keep a people free. People need leaders and the system will make sure they don't get that.
The fight over CRT, abortion and child mutilation is the first real pushback by the masses and that is over less abstract issues, mainly involves women and has nothing to do with guns
Agree. The elites learned a long time ago how to turn people into processed human pulp. They learned this from the Church who was the first to do it. Most of the maga gun people are convinced there is somewhere to run to and somewhere to hide, with their guns that they never use.
spooks have only so much power and are human after all. our strength is in numbers and preparedness. as long as there is enough who are properly informed, the system can do nothing but continue to fall apart.
That's the hope anyway. I'm not seeing too many properly informed people though. They made a little progress during the covid thing, but still, they believe in viruses, Louis Pasteur and all that. There's a whole internet of information, but they seem unwilling to go any further.
I know. But I think there are many more of us, only we do not have any big platforms to share our views... I tend to be optimistic. Just the fact that you mention failed virology is a good sign. A year or two ago I was very lonely when I said the same!
I'm thoroughly Slavic so optimism never informed my world view. Always admire people with it however, a different breed. Maybe we won't ever have big platforms which just attract the mediocre. Like when Constantine legalized Christianity, all sorts of riff raf and those who just wanted to be a part of the new scene joined into it. You raise the point though that makes me think somehow something might be gained in smaller ways. Glad you know that virology is a bogus science. That's a small group of people who do know.
"he sits on the fence between all these groups, acting as an arbiter between the internal squabbling parties."
Putin isn't a superhero, and he's obviously had to herd his oligarchic and bureaucratic cats skillfully to accomplish what he already has. On balance the outcome for Russia has been positive. But he may well be tightly constrained by internal political tensions to the point where there's not much he can do independently, or differently. To the extent that Wagner is an emerging player, it may have enough political mass, from what you say, to tilt the balance away from oligarchy toward national interests. Interesting times: the worst kind.
I am running behind here - just read this closely. Team substack should be wary of falling into a 24 hour news cycle dynamic.
The "statement by Prigozhin" is at least astonishing even if it is far from clear how it might be a "game changer". On its face it sounds like the ravings of a maniac. But the guy seems far too serious for that to be the case. Maniacs don't raise private armies and achieve real, if limited success against a NATO proxy.
One link that occurred to me is this. There was a element of US scholarship during the cold war - precursors of the Neo-cons - that flatly denied the legitimacy of the Soviet state and of the Communist Party as its legitimate ruling cadre. You would often encounter language that mirrors closely the language here, e.g. "terrorist methods". The account began by denigrating the October Revolution as a mere putsch carried out by a narrow clique rather than anything like a popular revolution. So there is a very curious parallel with Wagner now denying the legitimacy of the USA by denigrating its core founding mythos: the Declaration of Independence (a commenter here fleshes out how such a claim might proceed). So is this mere tit for tat at 60 years remove? Why?
Keeping an eye on the "Study of War" neocon group in DC: Their report for Feb 9 (I alluded to it a few days ago) was that: "Prigozhin also absurdly claimed that over 10 million Americans have applied to join Wagner" (is he perhaps counting "likes" on his facebook page!? -someone check! - if I had an account, I would be tempted). Neither they nor any other English language source of which I am aware have reported the PMC commanders declaration.
Finally, very interesting sketch of how global war lordism is playing out on the ground in Africa.
The US Declaration of Independence illegal? This clearly shows they have no clue whom they are fighting. The Western Empire currently centered in the US is a continuation of the British Empire. It is the empire of money. American Revolution was just and clearly Russians of that time knew this. Russians should be in favor of bringing back the American Republic which started with that Declaration. That Republic no longer exists, killed off by the Imperial Parasite, all enabled by treasonous Americans. The greatest threat to Russia comes from precisely parallel structures, treasonous Russians working for the Empire of Money.
The Declaration of Independence was Jacobin rot.
You may not like it for whatever reasons but it most certainly wasn't Jacobin rot, since it precedes Jacobins. That is, unless you know something of which I am unaware.
The D of I was written in the era immediately preceding the French Revolution. Like all instances preceding the actual events, the philosophies are present and being shouted about - in this case referred to as "The Enlightenment" and its proto Marxist bilge - that T Jefferson thought was very cool. Official date of Amr Rev: 1776-1783. Fr Rev: 1789-circa 1799. Technically, the Jacobins didn't come into being as an identifiable faction until later - but you get the drift don't you ?
I catch your drift, but I don’t believe it is fair to compare Jacobins with the American Revolution. Also, don’t discount the destructive role British Secret Services played in the French Revolution. American Revolution was real, and the Empire never stopped meddling until they regained the control of the Colonies. They did it through banking and financiers, precisely as they intend to take over Russia. That is my central point. America wasn’t conquered from outside but from inside. The same awaits Russia.
I'm not comparing the so called American Revolution with Jacobins. The secession from the British Empire was put together by the "movers and shakers" of the day - the moneyed elite. They were not Jacobins by any stretch. T Jefferson was the Hippie of the bunch and went overboard on his fanciful D of I.
Pretty much the same picture as the "covid" measures.
Putin either was fed BS and believes it, or he is seriously in on the scam, and not really fence sitting.
What is clear to me, this carefully created myth of a man single-handedly running Russia is not true.
I think Putin gets way more credits for running things that he actually does run and control, which is probably little, just like any other political puppet with a "control file".
Like Potus in US, or more aptly, Pedus with the last ones.
Prigozhin just wants to restore the America that has disappeared. Does anything say "I'm just living the American Dream" more than a career trajectory of pimp, extorter, convict, hot dog salesman, catering/restaurant empire, owner of PMC? He's earned my respect
lol well said
Prigozhin is an ethnic neocon, no? That's quite the bold statement especially regarding the Declaration. Sure I'll take a sweet new AK-12, a couple cases of preloaded magazines and some battle rattle! Shit another WASR10 and the mags and ammo to go with it? Perhaps something a tad bit stronger? RPGs or something more anti-armor. Local PDs have no problem rolling up on people with armoured vehicles; at least give us an actual means of resistance!
I had hoped that the Russians would show the Emperor has no clothes but it feels like theyre just playing for time. Hopefully the opportunity arrises to thwart Clown World and give us a chance to salvage civilization. Always cling to the Good, Beautiful, and True.
I'm an outsider but I was writing comments like this a couple of years ago.
Elvira Nabiullina is probably the most egregious case. Thanks to her, Russia lost billions of rubles that had been kept in the West. And despite the fact that Russia is in a position to benefit from a classic Keynesian war-economy situation, she continues to pursue neoliberal austerity measures that stifle the economy in the name of controlling inflation.
She is probably the most important factor holding back the Russian economy. Why her and not Glazyev? That would take a real insider, but it doesn't make any sense to me. It's the one major area where Putin doesn't seem to understand the right course.
It is impossible not to understand. Judging by his oratory skills, Putin is highly intelligent. He must have learned something studying law in St. Petersburg. He is also a former high ranking intelligence officer, skilled in pretending he is your friend, while he is your enemy, which comes in handy when governing Russian people. There is only one explanation for the actions of Russian leaders: they want to destroy Russian economy. Why did many American small businesses have to close for two years? Why are food plants and chicken farms catching fires? The same answer: they have to be destroyed.
Of course, Russia's intelligence is compromised. Has it ever been explained who sent and why those two guys to Salisbury? The only purpose could be to make Russia's intelligence a laughingstock.
We are witnessing a mass suicide of the USA, EU and Russia. They are destroying their economies and cultures, so that the money owners can become even richer by issuing CBCD and moving the center of operations to the East. Now I am wondering whether the twentieth century's world wars were started for the same purpose, for the world to be destroyed, then rebuilt, old debts not collected, and new money issued.
I find the Wagner PMC fascinating. I keep wondering where that will all end up. I do not really have an opinion on it, but they are getting too well known to simply sink back into obscurity after the SMO ends.
There is probably a lot of money going through the PMC, and some of that will end up in places where influence can be bought. Some of that will probably also accumulate in certain places of the Russian society that rather stay out of the limelight (for now).
And what to think of training prisoner populations in the use of battlefield techniques and weapons?
Man, this is going to be interesting to follow for years on end!
Initial Russian shock-and-awe offensive was a psyop that failed.
Sabotage in Russia may not be Ukrainian, but CIA/Polish/Baltic sleeper cells: https://jackmurphywrites.com/169/the-cias-sabotage-campaign-inside-russia/
Wagner statement is some trolling because US declared Wagner terrorists. But Wagner could consider sabotage ops in the West, against industry and energy (like pipelines). Or old-school against airplanes.
Putin has to keep some distance to the war: in case it fails, he can then blame generals or Shoygu or intelligence directors.
Oh yes, pre-knowledge of invasion was unavoidable given satellite and other signal intelligence. Abramovich may even have been tipped off by Israel.
Snake Island: it simply was not worth it.
Energy and grain deals: well, export revenues and possibly politics (negotiations/sanctions).
Putin cannot possibly be cut off from information because he was KGB and knows the system. Unless he has dementia due to old age. The most likely explanation is that he is growing senile. His first real failure was the Kharkiv debacle, so now debacles are new for Putin.
In 1989 the defense of Panama collapsed because the general in charge of the army in the mountains was secretly working for the USA. A few Syrian officers also were working for the USA. So this happens.
The whole world, every country out there is "compromised"....we're already under the "NWO", Great Reset or whatever the current term du jour...
Everything is kabuki theater designed to create little pockets of "resistance" and troll for dissidents...
your name is probably on some list or another...
ALL our names are in the database that accesses the real-time downloads that the NSA keeps of all our correspondence in Bluffdale. To that extent, we're all under the Eye of Sauron, all equally in danger of attracting its attention, all equally helpless should its gaze fall upon any one of us. Helluva way to live.
Is this man really V. Putin sitting at a long long desk far away from people who know him personally? Why could Putin not be replaced by doubles like Western political actors such as Biden?
Golitsyn provides irrefutable proof that perestroika or “restructuring” is not a 1985 Gorbachev invention, but the final phase of a plan formulated during 1958-1960. Perestroika refers to the restructuring, not just of the Soviet system, but of the entire free world. It is the Soviet strategy for a “Second October Revolution”, a temporary, non-violent World Revolution involving controlled fake democratization and strategic disinformation. Communist leaders envisaged the convergence of Communist/socialist systems with restructured capitalist systems into the One-World Communist Government. They realized that convergence could only be achieved by transforming Stalinism into a “more attractive form” of “Communist democracy”. The KGB was reorganized to play a “key role in implementing the strategy”. Thirty years of rehearsal in countries such as Czechoslovakia, Poland and Romania prepared the ground for the final phase perestroika and the controlled false “democratization” of the USSR itself. That it is false is confirmed by Eduard Shevardnadze, Georgian president and a long-time Western “friend”. As late as 1993, he admitted that elections do not equal democracy.
Perestroika refers to the restructuring, not just of the Soviet system, but of the entire free world.
Perestroika is a game of mind-control based on the principles of Italian Communist Antonio Gramsci (1891-1937), who devised a new, improved model of Marxist-Leninism. Gorbachev was chosen to launch it. Perestroika is psychological warfare, involving the use of “cooperation-blackmail”. A “theatrical display of democratism [is] designed to convince the West that a decisive Break with the Past has taken place”. This encourages Western governments to collaborate with the “former” Communists. At the same time, there is a threat of a “return to the Cold War or worse if the West does not cooperate”. Golitsyn demonstrates that every “crisis”, from Tienamen Square to the fake August 91 coup attempt to Chechnya, has been deliberately designed according to the cooperation-blackmail equation. The “new forces of democracy” are shown locked in mortal combat with the “conservative hard-liners” and the West is told that only its cooperation and large infusions of aid will help the “fledgling democracies” to survive. The Communist price for peace is thus the restructuring of Western thinking and policies.
Convergence.
It's a nice offer, but does Wagner have any idea how many weapons 'maga' people are already in possession of? They should visit Texas, Oklahoma, Idaho, eastern Washington State, West Virginia, Kentucky, Alabama, eastern ranch land California, ranch lands Colorado, Montana, etc. America is so gunned up it's ridiculous, problem is, so far, they don't use them.
the problem is that we're all monitored by armies of spooks behind computers and militia people use email or facebook messenger to communicate lol
The guns seem to be a pacifier. Once the gun craze started in the 70s and guns went from a tool to all you need to be free, Americans quit fighting back in any meaningful way.
Every time the globalist left advances, the right buys more guns and ammo and warns the left not to do it again. Repeat.
Someone has to be delusional after the Covid tyranny to think that guns keep a people free. People need leaders and the system will make sure they don't get that.
The fight over CRT, abortion and child mutilation is the first real pushback by the masses and that is over less abstract issues, mainly involves women and has nothing to do with guns
Agree. The elites learned a long time ago how to turn people into processed human pulp. They learned this from the Church who was the first to do it. Most of the maga gun people are convinced there is somewhere to run to and somewhere to hide, with their guns that they never use.
oh I know. nowhere to run to nowhere to hide.
spooks have only so much power and are human after all. our strength is in numbers and preparedness. as long as there is enough who are properly informed, the system can do nothing but continue to fall apart.
That's the hope anyway. I'm not seeing too many properly informed people though. They made a little progress during the covid thing, but still, they believe in viruses, Louis Pasteur and all that. There's a whole internet of information, but they seem unwilling to go any further.
I know. But I think there are many more of us, only we do not have any big platforms to share our views... I tend to be optimistic. Just the fact that you mention failed virology is a good sign. A year or two ago I was very lonely when I said the same!
I'm thoroughly Slavic so optimism never informed my world view. Always admire people with it however, a different breed. Maybe we won't ever have big platforms which just attract the mediocre. Like when Constantine legalized Christianity, all sorts of riff raf and those who just wanted to be a part of the new scene joined into it. You raise the point though that makes me think somehow something might be gained in smaller ways. Glad you know that virology is a bogus science. That's a small group of people who do know.
Just keep your powder dry, brother, and prepare as you may.
Thanks for this discussion.
"he sits on the fence between all these groups, acting as an arbiter between the internal squabbling parties."
Putin isn't a superhero, and he's obviously had to herd his oligarchic and bureaucratic cats skillfully to accomplish what he already has. On balance the outcome for Russia has been positive. But he may well be tightly constrained by internal political tensions to the point where there's not much he can do independently, or differently. To the extent that Wagner is an emerging player, it may have enough political mass, from what you say, to tilt the balance away from oligarchy toward national interests. Interesting times: the worst kind.
I am running behind here - just read this closely. Team substack should be wary of falling into a 24 hour news cycle dynamic.
The "statement by Prigozhin" is at least astonishing even if it is far from clear how it might be a "game changer". On its face it sounds like the ravings of a maniac. But the guy seems far too serious for that to be the case. Maniacs don't raise private armies and achieve real, if limited success against a NATO proxy.
One link that occurred to me is this. There was a element of US scholarship during the cold war - precursors of the Neo-cons - that flatly denied the legitimacy of the Soviet state and of the Communist Party as its legitimate ruling cadre. You would often encounter language that mirrors closely the language here, e.g. "terrorist methods". The account began by denigrating the October Revolution as a mere putsch carried out by a narrow clique rather than anything like a popular revolution. So there is a very curious parallel with Wagner now denying the legitimacy of the USA by denigrating its core founding mythos: the Declaration of Independence (a commenter here fleshes out how such a claim might proceed). So is this mere tit for tat at 60 years remove? Why?
Keeping an eye on the "Study of War" neocon group in DC: Their report for Feb 9 (I alluded to it a few days ago) was that: "Prigozhin also absurdly claimed that over 10 million Americans have applied to join Wagner" (is he perhaps counting "likes" on his facebook page!? -someone check! - if I had an account, I would be tempted). Neither they nor any other English language source of which I am aware have reported the PMC commanders declaration.
Finally, very interesting sketch of how global war lordism is playing out on the ground in Africa.
1. To consider as illegitimate government bodies of the USA, Great Britain and Canada.
Fact-check: TRUE