Is it possible Putin is using western Ukraine as a bargaining chip? The objectives of the SMO were to keep NATO out of Ukraine and protect the population of Ukraine that identifies with Russia. Bringing western Ukraine into Russia would cause nothing but trouble and internal dissent. Could there be a deal: Poland gets western Ukraine in exchange for Poland's permanent withdrawal from NATO by irrevocable treaty with concrete penalties? Russia gets the Russian-identifying portions of Ukraine with guaranteed access of Ukraine, including the part annexed by Poland, to shipping ports.
good point. i think he fell for the classic, "there are some good patriots in the government still fighting" trick.
According to this dude who runs a decent YouTube channel Strelkov really didn't have any illusions about White hats in the government.
https://t.me/AleksandrPasechnik/865
𝘐 𝘳𝘦𝘮𝘦𝘮𝘣𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘥 𝘯𝘰𝘸 𝘩𝘰𝘸 𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘥𝘢𝘺, 𝘢𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘵𝘪𝘮𝘦 𝘸𝘩𝘦𝘯 𝘚𝘵𝘳𝘦𝘭𝘬𝘰𝘷 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘐 𝘸𝘦𝘳𝘦 𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘵𝘢𝘭𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘨, 𝘩𝘦 𝘴𝘶𝘥𝘥𝘦𝘯𝘭𝘺 𝘴𝘢𝘪𝘥: “𝘈𝘤𝘵𝘶𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘺, 𝘐 𝘢𝘮 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘱𝘭𝘦𝘵𝘦𝘭𝘺 𝘢𝘭𝘰𝘯𝘦. 𝘏𝘶𝘯𝘥𝘳𝘦𝘥𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘴𝘢𝘯𝘥𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘧𝘢𝘯𝘴, 𝘣𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘰𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘐𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘯𝘦𝘵, 𝘪𝘯 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘭𝘪𝘵𝘺 𝘐 𝘢𝘮 𝘢𝘭𝘰𝘯𝘦. 𝘐𝘧 𝘴𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘩𝘢𝘱𝘱𝘦𝘯𝘴, 𝘯𝘰 𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘶𝘱."
𝘔𝘢𝘺𝘣𝘦 𝘐 𝘤𝘢𝘯'𝘵 𝘳𝘦𝘮𝘦𝘮𝘣𝘦𝘳 𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘥𝘴 𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘣𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘮 𝘯𝘰𝘸, 𝘣𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘸𝘢𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘨𝘪𝘴𝘵 𝘰𝘧 𝘪𝘵. 𝘞𝘦 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘱𝘢𝘵𝘳𝘪𝘰𝘵𝘴 "𝘰𝘯𝘭𝘪𝘯𝘦".
𝘐𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘢𝘶𝘵𝘩𝘰𝘳𝘪𝘵𝘪𝘦𝘴 𝘴𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘰𝘶𝘴𝘭𝘺 𝘵𝘢𝘬𝘦 𝘶𝘱 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘥𝘦𝘳𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘱𝘶𝘣𝘭𝘪𝘤 𝘰𝘱𝘪𝘯𝘪𝘰𝘯, 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘰𝘯𝘭𝘺 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘩𝘶𝘯𝘥𝘳𝘦𝘥𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘴𝘢𝘯𝘥𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘵𝘢𝘬𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘦𝘦𝘵𝘴, 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘯 𝘢 𝘤𝘰𝘶𝘱𝘭𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘩𝘶𝘯𝘥𝘳𝘦𝘥 𝘸𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘣𝘦 𝘵𝘺𝘱𝘦𝘥.
𝘐 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘢𝘭𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘥𝘺 𝘰𝘣𝘴𝘦𝘳𝘷𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘯 𝘰𝘯𝘤𝘦.
𝘐𝘯 𝘰𝘳𝘥𝘦𝘳 𝘵𝘰 𝘳𝘦𝘱𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘴𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯 𝘙𝘶𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘢, 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘯𝘦𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘰 𝘣𝘦 𝘦𝘪𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘢𝘯 𝘰𝘭𝘪𝘨𝘢𝘳𝘤𝘩 𝘰𝘳 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘺𝘰𝘶𝘳 𝘰𝘸𝘯 𝘱𝘳𝘪𝘷𝘢𝘵𝘦 𝘢𝘳𝘮𝘺. 𝘉𝘦𝘵𝘵𝘦𝘳 𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘵𝘰𝘨𝘦𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳
I think Artëms take like always is the closest to the truth and it matches my own that this is all a pre surrender purge.
𝘚𝘰𝘮𝘦 𝘵𝘪𝘮𝘦 𝘢𝘨𝘰, 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘩𝘦𝘢𝘥 𝘰𝘧 𝘙𝘛, 𝘔𝘢𝘳𝘨𝘢𝘳𝘪𝘵𝘢 𝘚𝘪𝘮𝘰𝘯𝘺𝘢𝘯, 𝘵𝘩𝘳𝘦𝘸 𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘰 𝘴𝘰𝘤𝘪𝘦𝘵𝘺 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘴𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘪𝘵 𝘸𝘢𝘴 𝘵𝘪𝘮𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘦𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘸𝘢𝘳 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘪𝘵 𝘸𝘢𝘴 𝘯𝘦𝘤𝘦𝘴𝘴𝘢𝘳𝘺 𝘵𝘰 𝘯𝘦𝘨𝘰𝘵𝘪𝘢𝘵𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘥𝘪𝘭𝘭. 𝘛𝘰𝘥𝘢𝘺, 𝘉𝘳𝘪𝘵𝘢𝘪𝘯 𝘭𝘪𝘧𝘵𝘴 𝘴𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮 𝘪𝘵𝘴 𝘰𝘥𝘪𝘰𝘶𝘴 𝘦𝘮𝘱𝘭𝘰𝘺𝘦𝘦 𝘈𝘯𝘵𝘰𝘯 𝘒𝘳𝘢𝘴𝘰𝘷𝘴𝘬𝘺, 𝘸𝘩𝘰, 𝘐 𝘳𝘦𝘤𝘢𝘭𝘭, 𝘢𝘤𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘢𝘴 𝘢 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘷𝘰𝘤𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘶𝘳 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘳𝘪𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘰 𝘱𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘙𝘶𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘢𝘯 𝘱𝘶𝘣𝘭𝘪𝘤 𝘢𝘴 𝘣𝘭𝘰𝘰𝘥𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘳𝘴𝘵𝘺 𝘢𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘜𝘬𝘳𝘢𝘪𝘯𝘪𝘢𝘯 𝘰𝘯𝘦.
𝘛𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘪𝘯𝘪𝘵𝘪𝘢𝘵𝘦 𝘤𝘢𝘴𝘦𝘴 𝘢𝘨𝘢𝘪𝘯𝘴𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘮𝘰𝘴𝘵 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘴𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘤𝘳𝘪𝘵𝘪𝘤𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘦𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘦𝘵𝘩𝘰𝘥𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘸𝘢𝘳𝘧𝘢𝘳𝘦: 𝘒𝘷𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘬𝘰𝘷 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘚𝘵𝘳𝘦𝘭𝘬𝘰𝘷.
𝘈𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘰𝘥𝘢𝘺, 𝘗𝘶𝘵𝘪𝘯, 𝘪𝘯 𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵, 𝘷𝘰𝘪𝘤𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘴𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘪𝘧 𝘗𝘰𝘭𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘥𝘦𝘤𝘪𝘥𝘦𝘴 𝘵𝘰 𝘴𝘦𝘯𝘥 𝘪𝘵𝘴 𝘵𝘳𝘰𝘰𝘱𝘴 𝘵𝘰 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘴𝘰-𝘤𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘦𝘥. 𝘸𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘯 𝘜𝘬𝘳𝘢𝘪𝘯𝘦 - 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘙𝘍 𝘈𝘳𝘮𝘦𝘥 𝘍𝘰𝘳𝘤𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘧𝘦𝘳𝘦 𝘪𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘤𝘦𝘴𝘴.
𝘋𝘰𝘯'𝘵 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘨𝘦𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘪𝘮𝘱𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘱𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘱𝘢𝘳𝘵𝘯𝘦𝘳𝘴 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘢𝘭𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘥𝘺 𝘢𝘨𝘳𝘦𝘦𝘥 𝘰𝘯 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨?
Hoping and praying that Utkin wasn't exaggerating when he said Wagners most important work will begin soon and that it's all just beginning.
Is it possible Putin is using western Ukraine as a bargaining chip? The objectives of the SMO were to keep NATO out of Ukraine and protect the population of Ukraine that identifies with Russia. Bringing western Ukraine into Russia would cause nothing but trouble and internal dissent. Could there be a deal: Poland gets western Ukraine in exchange for Poland's permanent withdrawal from NATO by irrevocable treaty with concrete penalties? Russia gets the Russian-identifying portions of Ukraine with guaranteed access of Ukraine, including the part annexed by Poland, to shipping ports.