According to Shogun Shoigu if Western rockets are used to hit Crimea there will be a super strong retaliation against command centers and all that. Ukrainian Telegram is saying Strom Shadows were used in the hit on Sevastopol but MoD is claiming the Ukrainians just used a bunch of S200s. I guess the implication is that this strike was okay and meets the approval of MoD so no retaliation against command centers or anything important should be expected. Doomers claiming the Kremlin is weak BTFO.
NATO is obviously terrified of Moscow because they are using S200s and drones to blow up Russias infastructure, planes, and warships because if they weren't they would be using Western Rockets. This strike is actually proof of how scared the West is. And the Ukrainians claiming they did use Western rockets are just trying to goad the Russians into a retaliation strike that would cost the Kremlin it's most valuable weapon in the war..and that's moral capital and high ground. And without that accumulated moral capital Russia is no different than Zog West.
But for real I guess the Ukrainians are also playing the attrition game here pretty well. Will Russia run out of unprotected high value targets laid out for Ukrainian drones and missiles before Ukraine runs out out of fighting age males?
Absolutely my friend, Russia isnt some terrorist regime that goes around blowing up bridges, railroads, powerplants etc. Russia fights morally by just focusing exclusively on killing the male peasant population of its foes while not touching any ethnic pornographer leadership in the presidential administration. It's the values that make Russia who they are as an LLC.
It tends to support my hypothesis that this war is not meant to be won, but to be kept going so as to run the various Corruption Machines attached to Ukraine for as long and profitably as possible.
Why Ukraine now? Apart from the usual reasons, probably the main push is via Chabad's Heavenly Jerusalem Project:
Notice that the really important people wear their hats indoors.
'
oday, we can see the actions of this rabbi-a member of the Judeo-Nazi-Hasidic Chabad movement, whose ideology is the statement " Jews are above all, and Chabad is above Jews." By the way, in the early 1930s, Stalin, who had once studied at the Tiflis Theological Seminary and was well versed in religious matters, sent Chabad out of the USSR as a fascist sect. But in the nineties, the Chabad people again occupied Russia. To quote Lazar's triumphant report to the American Chabad Center: "Russia has known many revolutions, but the most peaceful, quietest, and most effective is the revolution that the Chabad envoys made." Apparently, for this Jewish annihilation of the USSR, Putin awarded Chabadnik four of Russia's highest awards.:The Order of Friendship of Peoples, the Order of Minin and Pozharsky, the Order of Peter the Great of the first degree and the Golden Badge of Honor "Public Recognition".'
If Ukraine does not work out they may claim a back-up in Kazakhstan!
'The Jewish False Messiah – Chabad Rebbe Schneerson:
“The Slavs are Temporary Guests on these lands and are subject to Eviction. We will return this territory, and build the Great Khazaria – the Jewish state, as 50 years ago, we created Israel.”
# CHABAD Ukraine created the pretext for CHABAD Putin/Russia to invade Ukraine. “Putin claimed his goal is the de-Nazification of Ukraine.”
NO. PUTIN, UKRAINE KHAZARIANS AND ISRAEL WANT A PROLONGED WAR TO DESTROY UKRAINE-
TO BE TAKEN OVER BY JEWISH IMMIGRANTS, JUST LIKE THEY DID IN PALESTINE
(Think about HOW they Drove the Masses out of Syria)
Chabad Death Cult, Khazarian Zionists Mafia, Ukraine = New Jerusalem/New Khazarian'
A search on Yandex yields a lot more references to the Heavenly Jerusalem Project.
To be fair to Martyanov, if he overcame his materialist obsessions, he might be able to use his boasted mathematical skill to correlate some spiritual forces and how they control the industrial military and political forces and so better understand how and why things happen as they do.
This one seems to be without much substance really, to me.
In essence it says the enemy are hurting russia so why hasn't russia killed all the enemy?
But that's just silly.
How can you use words like 'impunity' for instance? They - Kiev Ukraine - are being attacked in many ways all the time, not the least of which is letting them come and suicide themselves.
Where's the 'impunity' ? Very inappropriate word I think.
You want some special immediate retaliation that will make the enemy think twice, or twenty times, before doing that thing again. But what could that be short of the ludicrous nuclear option?
And if there is such a thing then wouldn't we employ it now as a matter of course?
And you look apparently only at the 'on the battlefield' front. That's a bit simplistic - a bit 'one dimensional chess perhaps, right? A bit 'checkers' rather than chess really, isn't it?
The real forces behind this war as you constantly assert are way away from the battlefield in the realm of business interests, political interests, vested interests and connections and power plays of all kinds.
Why look to the front page of the newspaper to see the 'retaliation' ? You mock that yourself.
The retaliation may be very acute and completely hidden from us.
You assume the message 'this is a red line' is a message to the infantrymen and their commanders and the response must be something they will experience. Or their civilian counterparts, the ordinary people.
But the whole war is elsewhere. I think you. You assert it.
So 'this is a red line' will have consequences elsewhere.
Zelensky passed a law that there can be no negotiations with Putin I think, didn't he? I imagine such a decision would have great significance to all the power players 'behind the scenes', drastically effecting what they could hope for and how they currently see the situation and options to be.
And I think the situation now is that Putin has made reciprocal statements in the same area. Insisting this and that will have to be before there can be any negotiations.
I see even things like that as being very important and very much 'not hard to decipher' messages to those 'behind the scenes' power players running it all.
Putin tries to manipulate competing interests. That's what diplomacy is. How to cope with Turkey? Incredibly difficult. And so on. Very clear. Nation states etc. But the same sort of thing must apply with the 'behind the scenes' power players. They will not be one solid bloc. They will be competing with each other. They will be treacherous and manipulative.
I agree with you in that regard. I see the whole thing as being really in the hands of those behind the scenes manipulations. But scanty and shallow as the battlefield reporting is it remains streets ahead of where the reporting of that stuff is, which is 'nowhere'.
And asking for 'retaliations' for 'crossing red lines' in terms of blowing up this or that or any crude battlefield events misses the point I think.
Though in truth I would like it myself. I would like to hear that suddenly nothing can cross the borders into Kiev Ukraine. Nothing. All road and railways and airports interdicted.
I think it is possible and I would want it.
Maybe it is not possible. I've never seen it thoroughly discussed. I wonder why it isn't done, I wonder why it is never discussed.
>The retaliation may be very acute and completely hidden from us.
how long will the retaliation remain hidden to us?
and if the goal of the retaliation is to deter further attacks, and then further attacks continue, how can we be sure that the super-secret spetznaz strikes on NATO command bunkers in the arctic developing alien biowarfare tech were successful?
the machinations behind wars apparently can easily stay hidden forever can't they? For most of us at least. I know virtually nothing of the machinations behind WWII despite reading Churchill for instance, and various others. Krupps, et al did their thing and its still opaque to me.
The population largely doesn't want to know do they? The disinterest in the truth of covid is matched only by the disinterest in Ukraine truth isn't it?
So there's no motivation generally to get the truth out. It stays within the coterie. Perhaps I'm wrong but i think this is the area you are always pointing at: the 'club' of mega rich and mega powerful? They indisputably fight wars between themselves and involve whole countries. And their issues would be discussed freely at every breakfast table amongst them: but those truths never get out. Never.
Just things eventually seem to get peaceful again.
The goal of the retaliation is not to deter further attacks is it? It is to demonstrate ability and intent. But as I say, as you say, in a different arena.
To my mind it is all like nothing so much as your typical family fight. Between spouses.
Full of 'don't go there' and 'if you do' and 'what about when' and so on. Right?
And a constant shifting of 'red lines'. 'Okay, you want to bring my relatives into it so what about...' And swiftly shifting adjustments: a coarse filthy word here gets an immediate response and then both back off from that area. A constant refusal to get physical, not even really contemplated. The children coming home from school: the thing stops.
All within rules, see? All constrained. All vying for power and seeking to gain. And all keeping the whole of the power, naturally, within themselves, between themselves for they ARE the power, in the family, the parents ARE the power.
And the 'battlefield' physical ploys find parallels too, I think. 'You broke my vase' - but nothing happens as 'retribution' but both parties know that is going to cost. That will perhaps 'never be forgiven', truly.
And on and on.
The parallel I am finding is with the nature of the combat: within power holders who share power and will not release it; a struggle that really is wholly theirs and only incidentally effects the rest of the family who are in effect pawns even though the parents really believe they 'love them' : apparently senseless physical manifestations of the struggle that are meaningful only to the combatants - 'so we're not going to the farm this year?' - 'we've sold the old car?' - we can't have a new tv ? and on and on...
We can take it further can't we? Because each parent will have 'supporters' possibly external to the domicile that will influence things....
We all - all adults - know very well just how totally true, certain, deadly and convincing it can be when a 'combatant' in such conflicts says 'that's going to cost you'. We know how utter the severing of 'loving' relationships can be; bewildering so, just no coming back at all.
Those homely commonplace combats to my mind probably mimic the realities of combat between competing mega rich dynasties or groups.
We are like children, concerned for ourselves and basically believing it is all about us.
The AFU continually gains territory, the "impregnable defense lines" are breached, and there is zero effective retaliation. Watch Military Summary channel to get daily reports of the combat situation and see what the Russian Army has lost this summer to the point of the AFU even crossing the Dneiper River. When Wagner was fighting in Bakmut, the expectation was they would advance to Chasiv Yar and take it next, but Shoigu sabotaged Wagner simply because they were effective against the AFU. Now the Russian Army is in danger of losing Bakmut.
The shelling of Donetsk city continues daily, throughout the SMO. Not one inch of territory west of Donetsk has been taken from the AFU.
Interesting take and useful link - new to me. I took a quick look and all I saw was AFU armored vehicles getting blasted. My own go to source, the DC neocons are much more sober about UKR gains and prospects; gains mostly measured in fractions of Km - Russian lines are breached because they meant to be in a flexible defense stance; they fall back and counterattack. I am not sure whose "expectation" you refer to; but Wagner was utterly exhausted after conquering Bakmut but the claim that the Russians are in any danger of losing it now, is entirely new to me. In short: stalemate. And soon we all wait for the ground to freeze (again).
Is there any information on Surovikin ? After all, he is the one who set the current defensive lines and they seem to hold. Maybe not a Jukov but decently competent.
This past weekend I met a man who looked like a clone of Rustern Umerov, the new Tatar minister of defence of the hapless Ukraine; clone complete with belly and smile. The man I met is 100% .................... Sicilian ! Born in Sicily from Sicilian parents with long local ancestry. So you are right, Umerov has little Tatar blood : he is most probably a mere Crimean with the usual mischling ancestry that it entails.
At the beginning it looked like that Prigojin was unharmed by his attempt at taking over Moscow and that Surovikin was made to pay for letting the situation out of control. The current state looks more normal : Prigojin and his captains are dead and Surovikin is retired. The message is that any attempt at seizing power is to be punished with death, or exile if one manages to escape. But the generals need not be terrorised for failing to act preemptively; albeit new informal guidelines must have been put in place.
Here's a line of thought the 5D bloggers will never lay out for you.
There's a New Agey Russian woman called Valentina Kogut. She claims to have received messages from Angels. They told her about Heavenly Jerusalem and why the Jews want to grab southern Ukraine. It is (to the eye of faith) shaped like a fish, as is Kazakhstan, which would be their second choice. This fishy business remains unexplained, but Chabad (who seem to have colonised Putin's mind and placed his main advisors around him) apparently prompted the invasion to speed up the project. Despite the furore in the media, military progress is not very relevant - between them they are doing a great job of clearing south-eastern Ukraine of goyim. (There's no immediate rush since the Chosen only want it by mid-century.)
There's good news for those who give credence to Father Christmas and Messages from Angels. The Angels have apparently got tired of the Obnoxiously Self Chosen, and have started to undermine their influence.
For those who are at least amused or even curious, if not chosen:
According to Shogun Shoigu if Western rockets are used to hit Crimea there will be a super strong retaliation against command centers and all that. Ukrainian Telegram is saying Strom Shadows were used in the hit on Sevastopol but MoD is claiming the Ukrainians just used a bunch of S200s. I guess the implication is that this strike was okay and meets the approval of MoD so no retaliation against command centers or anything important should be expected. Doomers claiming the Kremlin is weak BTFO.
NATO is obviously terrified of Moscow because they are using S200s and drones to blow up Russias infastructure, planes, and warships because if they weren't they would be using Western Rockets. This strike is actually proof of how scared the West is. And the Ukrainians claiming they did use Western rockets are just trying to goad the Russians into a retaliation strike that would cost the Kremlin it's most valuable weapon in the war..and that's moral capital and high ground. And without that accumulated moral capital Russia is no different than Zog West.
But for real I guess the Ukrainians are also playing the attrition game here pretty well. Will Russia run out of unprotected high value targets laid out for Ukrainian drones and missiles before Ukraine runs out out of fighting age males?
sounds like shoigu admitted that storm shadows were used.
ukraine can kiss its hotdog factories goodbye.
Yeah I wouldn't want to be standing next to a Ukrainian accordion factory or mime school in the next few days.
Don't worry , once Russia has genocided all the Ukrainian males under eighteen the world will be a better place.
Absolutely my friend, Russia isnt some terrorist regime that goes around blowing up bridges, railroads, powerplants etc. Russia fights morally by just focusing exclusively on killing the male peasant population of its foes while not touching any ethnic pornographer leadership in the presidential administration. It's the values that make Russia who they are as an LLC.
It tends to support my hypothesis that this war is not meant to be won, but to be kept going so as to run the various Corruption Machines attached to Ukraine for as long and profitably as possible.
Why Ukraine now? Apart from the usual reasons, probably the main push is via Chabad's Heavenly Jerusalem Project:
https://oleg-ezonikitin.livejournal.com/41154.html
Notice that the really important people wear their hats indoors.
'
oday, we can see the actions of this rabbi-a member of the Judeo-Nazi-Hasidic Chabad movement, whose ideology is the statement " Jews are above all, and Chabad is above Jews." By the way, in the early 1930s, Stalin, who had once studied at the Tiflis Theological Seminary and was well versed in religious matters, sent Chabad out of the USSR as a fascist sect. But in the nineties, the Chabad people again occupied Russia. To quote Lazar's triumphant report to the American Chabad Center: "Russia has known many revolutions, but the most peaceful, quietest, and most effective is the revolution that the Chabad envoys made." Apparently, for this Jewish annihilation of the USSR, Putin awarded Chabadnik four of Russia's highest awards.:The Order of Friendship of Peoples, the Order of Minin and Pozharsky, the Order of Peter the Great of the first degree and the Golden Badge of Honor "Public Recognition".'
If Ukraine does not work out they may claim a back-up in Kazakhstan!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlFawcNFgRU
36 million Ukrainians to be eliminated - they've made a good start already:
https://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2022/10/israel-putin-ukraine-plot-to-create-new-jerusalem-khazarian-homeland-in-ukraine-proof-war-to-depopulate-and-force-migration-36-million-ukrainians-must-die-or-flee-3782490.html
It links to the re-creation of Khazaria:
'The Jewish False Messiah – Chabad Rebbe Schneerson:
“The Slavs are Temporary Guests on these lands and are subject to Eviction. We will return this territory, and build the Great Khazaria – the Jewish state, as 50 years ago, we created Israel.”
# CHABAD Ukraine created the pretext for CHABAD Putin/Russia to invade Ukraine. “Putin claimed his goal is the de-Nazification of Ukraine.”
NO. PUTIN, UKRAINE KHAZARIANS AND ISRAEL WANT A PROLONGED WAR TO DESTROY UKRAINE-
TO BE TAKEN OVER BY JEWISH IMMIGRANTS, JUST LIKE THEY DID IN PALESTINE
(Think about HOW they Drove the Masses out of Syria)
Chabad Death Cult, Khazarian Zionists Mafia, Ukraine = New Jerusalem/New Khazarian'
A search on Yandex yields a lot more references to the Heavenly Jerusalem Project.
To be fair to Martyanov, if he overcame his materialist obsessions, he might be able to use his boasted mathematical skill to correlate some spiritual forces and how they control the industrial military and political forces and so better understand how and why things happen as they do.
has martyanov ever pointed out the small hat conspiracy?
Of course not! He's too fat to be a martyr, and does not want to become a persecuted stateless person without media influence.
Nevertheless, he's useful for pointing out the idiocy of those who think they run America.
"There are no facts, there are only interpretations", apparently...
This one seems to be without much substance really, to me.
In essence it says the enemy are hurting russia so why hasn't russia killed all the enemy?
But that's just silly.
How can you use words like 'impunity' for instance? They - Kiev Ukraine - are being attacked in many ways all the time, not the least of which is letting them come and suicide themselves.
Where's the 'impunity' ? Very inappropriate word I think.
You want some special immediate retaliation that will make the enemy think twice, or twenty times, before doing that thing again. But what could that be short of the ludicrous nuclear option?
And if there is such a thing then wouldn't we employ it now as a matter of course?
And you look apparently only at the 'on the battlefield' front. That's a bit simplistic - a bit 'one dimensional chess perhaps, right? A bit 'checkers' rather than chess really, isn't it?
The real forces behind this war as you constantly assert are way away from the battlefield in the realm of business interests, political interests, vested interests and connections and power plays of all kinds.
Why look to the front page of the newspaper to see the 'retaliation' ? You mock that yourself.
The retaliation may be very acute and completely hidden from us.
You assume the message 'this is a red line' is a message to the infantrymen and their commanders and the response must be something they will experience. Or their civilian counterparts, the ordinary people.
But the whole war is elsewhere. I think you. You assert it.
So 'this is a red line' will have consequences elsewhere.
Zelensky passed a law that there can be no negotiations with Putin I think, didn't he? I imagine such a decision would have great significance to all the power players 'behind the scenes', drastically effecting what they could hope for and how they currently see the situation and options to be.
And I think the situation now is that Putin has made reciprocal statements in the same area. Insisting this and that will have to be before there can be any negotiations.
I see even things like that as being very important and very much 'not hard to decipher' messages to those 'behind the scenes' power players running it all.
Putin tries to manipulate competing interests. That's what diplomacy is. How to cope with Turkey? Incredibly difficult. And so on. Very clear. Nation states etc. But the same sort of thing must apply with the 'behind the scenes' power players. They will not be one solid bloc. They will be competing with each other. They will be treacherous and manipulative.
I agree with you in that regard. I see the whole thing as being really in the hands of those behind the scenes manipulations. But scanty and shallow as the battlefield reporting is it remains streets ahead of where the reporting of that stuff is, which is 'nowhere'.
And asking for 'retaliations' for 'crossing red lines' in terms of blowing up this or that or any crude battlefield events misses the point I think.
Though in truth I would like it myself. I would like to hear that suddenly nothing can cross the borders into Kiev Ukraine. Nothing. All road and railways and airports interdicted.
I think it is possible and I would want it.
Maybe it is not possible. I've never seen it thoroughly discussed. I wonder why it isn't done, I wonder why it is never discussed.
>The retaliation may be very acute and completely hidden from us.
how long will the retaliation remain hidden to us?
and if the goal of the retaliation is to deter further attacks, and then further attacks continue, how can we be sure that the super-secret spetznaz strikes on NATO command bunkers in the arctic developing alien biowarfare tech were successful?
the machinations behind wars apparently can easily stay hidden forever can't they? For most of us at least. I know virtually nothing of the machinations behind WWII despite reading Churchill for instance, and various others. Krupps, et al did their thing and its still opaque to me.
The population largely doesn't want to know do they? The disinterest in the truth of covid is matched only by the disinterest in Ukraine truth isn't it?
So there's no motivation generally to get the truth out. It stays within the coterie. Perhaps I'm wrong but i think this is the area you are always pointing at: the 'club' of mega rich and mega powerful? They indisputably fight wars between themselves and involve whole countries. And their issues would be discussed freely at every breakfast table amongst them: but those truths never get out. Never.
Just things eventually seem to get peaceful again.
The goal of the retaliation is not to deter further attacks is it? It is to demonstrate ability and intent. But as I say, as you say, in a different arena.
To my mind it is all like nothing so much as your typical family fight. Between spouses.
Full of 'don't go there' and 'if you do' and 'what about when' and so on. Right?
And a constant shifting of 'red lines'. 'Okay, you want to bring my relatives into it so what about...' And swiftly shifting adjustments: a coarse filthy word here gets an immediate response and then both back off from that area. A constant refusal to get physical, not even really contemplated. The children coming home from school: the thing stops.
All within rules, see? All constrained. All vying for power and seeking to gain. And all keeping the whole of the power, naturally, within themselves, between themselves for they ARE the power, in the family, the parents ARE the power.
And the 'battlefield' physical ploys find parallels too, I think. 'You broke my vase' - but nothing happens as 'retribution' but both parties know that is going to cost. That will perhaps 'never be forgiven', truly.
And on and on.
The parallel I am finding is with the nature of the combat: within power holders who share power and will not release it; a struggle that really is wholly theirs and only incidentally effects the rest of the family who are in effect pawns even though the parents really believe they 'love them' : apparently senseless physical manifestations of the struggle that are meaningful only to the combatants - 'so we're not going to the farm this year?' - 'we've sold the old car?' - we can't have a new tv ? and on and on...
We can take it further can't we? Because each parent will have 'supporters' possibly external to the domicile that will influence things....
We all - all adults - know very well just how totally true, certain, deadly and convincing it can be when a 'combatant' in such conflicts says 'that's going to cost you'. We know how utter the severing of 'loving' relationships can be; bewildering so, just no coming back at all.
Those homely commonplace combats to my mind probably mimic the realities of combat between competing mega rich dynasties or groups.
We are like children, concerned for ourselves and basically believing it is all about us.
But it is not.
The AFU continually gains territory, the "impregnable defense lines" are breached, and there is zero effective retaliation. Watch Military Summary channel to get daily reports of the combat situation and see what the Russian Army has lost this summer to the point of the AFU even crossing the Dneiper River. When Wagner was fighting in Bakmut, the expectation was they would advance to Chasiv Yar and take it next, but Shoigu sabotaged Wagner simply because they were effective against the AFU. Now the Russian Army is in danger of losing Bakmut.
The shelling of Donetsk city continues daily, throughout the SMO. Not one inch of territory west of Donetsk has been taken from the AFU.
Interesting take and useful link - new to me. I took a quick look and all I saw was AFU armored vehicles getting blasted. My own go to source, the DC neocons are much more sober about UKR gains and prospects; gains mostly measured in fractions of Km - Russian lines are breached because they meant to be in a flexible defense stance; they fall back and counterattack. I am not sure whose "expectation" you refer to; but Wagner was utterly exhausted after conquering Bakmut but the claim that the Russians are in any danger of losing it now, is entirely new to me. In short: stalemate. And soon we all wait for the ground to freeze (again).
Hi Rurik,
Is there any information on Surovikin ? After all, he is the one who set the current defensive lines and they seem to hold. Maybe not a Jukov but decently competent.
This past weekend I met a man who looked like a clone of Rustern Umerov, the new Tatar minister of defence of the hapless Ukraine; clone complete with belly and smile. The man I met is 100% .................... Sicilian ! Born in Sicily from Sicilian parents with long local ancestry. So you are right, Umerov has little Tatar blood : he is most probably a mere Crimean with the usual mischling ancestry that it entails.
wait till you look up the DNA results of where the chosen people come from - southern italy.
Surovikin has been elected to some meaningless and ceremonial committee on air defense for the CIS countries.
https://t.me/Dead_heads/258
He was spotted with his wife in Moscow not too long ago and is no longer under arrest but his career is over.
https://vbanke.info/news/chto-seychas-s-surovikinym.html
Thank you.
At the beginning it looked like that Prigojin was unharmed by his attempt at taking over Moscow and that Surovikin was made to pay for letting the situation out of control. The current state looks more normal : Prigojin and his captains are dead and Surovikin is retired. The message is that any attempt at seizing power is to be punished with death, or exile if one manages to escape. But the generals need not be terrorised for failing to act preemptively; albeit new informal guidelines must have been put in place.
Here's a line of thought the 5D bloggers will never lay out for you.
There's a New Agey Russian woman called Valentina Kogut. She claims to have received messages from Angels. They told her about Heavenly Jerusalem and why the Jews want to grab southern Ukraine. It is (to the eye of faith) shaped like a fish, as is Kazakhstan, which would be their second choice. This fishy business remains unexplained, but Chabad (who seem to have colonised Putin's mind and placed his main advisors around him) apparently prompted the invasion to speed up the project. Despite the furore in the media, military progress is not very relevant - between them they are doing a great job of clearing south-eastern Ukraine of goyim. (There's no immediate rush since the Chosen only want it by mid-century.)
There's good news for those who give credence to Father Christmas and Messages from Angels. The Angels have apparently got tired of the Obnoxiously Self Chosen, and have started to undermine their influence.
For those who are at least amused or even curious, if not chosen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlFawcNFgRU
It is usual for leaders to project confidence. Here's a little clip of Shoigu shrugging when asked "Will we win?"
https://t.me/the_Right_People/23321
What effect does that have on his troops and his public?