Yet More Information About Shameful Secret Istanbul Peace Deal Leaked to Western Media
We need to get to the bottom of this.
I’ve been doing a very diligent job of tracking Putin’s treacherous peace plea haven’t I? In contrast, no other blogger has touched this even though you’d think it’d be an important detail to figure out what the terms that Moscow agreed to were because they would reveal a lot about what the initial goals of the SMO even were and how serious the Kremlin was about pursuing them.
It is my contention that Putin never wanted or cared about Donbass.
If the terms of the peace deal were extremely generous to Kiev, then the entire Z-narrative falls apart. It turns out that this wasn’t a war to pass hate speech legislation in Ukraine as Putin alleged in his Tucker interview. And the Kiev push wasn’t a “feint” either but the entire goal of the SMO. Furthemore, the subsequent Donbass campaign wasn’t even planned by Moscow let alone part of any grand strategy.
But we will get no apology or confession that we were lied to, just more moral chastisement for not willing a new alternative reality into existence hard enough. The drama around the bizarre peace deal makes the whole war look extremely unnecessary and it certainly doesn’t paint a picture of a holy Crusade to promote Antifa values in Ukraine as the Kremlin has portrayed it. Conversely, it is hard to understand why it was so morally imperative for the West to get involved. We know that American politicians will do anything to protect the sacredness of the Big Homo and Big Negro agenda that polite society in the West holds sacred, true.
But there wasn’t even a lot of that going on here either.
I’m getting ahead of myself though.
The latest development is that the WSJ leaked details concerning the secret peace deal that Putin signed with Kiev with the intention of ending the SMO back in April of 2022. Here:
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The document shows the deep concessions negotiators on both the Russian and Ukrainian sides were considering as Kyiv struggled in the early weeks of the war. For Russia, it was a moment when it realized Ukrainian defenses had caught its troops off guard. But it also serves as a reminder of the compromises that Russia might try to force Ukraine to swallow if Western military support dries up and Russia makes significant territorial gains.
The draft treaty states that Ukraine, while being allowed to pursue European Union membership, wouldn’t be allowed to join military alliances such as the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. No foreign weapons would be allowed on Ukrainian soil. Ukraine’s military would be pared down to a specific size. Russia sought to limit everything from the number of troops and tanks to the maximum firing range of Ukrainian missiles.
The Crimean Peninsula, already occupied by Russia, would remain under Moscow’s influence and not be considered neutral. Moscow also pushed for the Russian language to operate on an equal basis with Ukrainian in government and courts, a clause Kyiv hadn’t signed off on, according to the draft document.
The future of the area of eastern Ukraine covertly invaded and occupied by Russia in 2014, wasn’t included in the draft, leaving it up to Putin and Zelensky to complete in face-to-face talks. That meeting never took place.
So much for the liberation of Donbass from the Satan-Nazis!
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The first round of tentative peace talks began only days after the February 2022 invasion. Russian and Ukrainian negotiators initially met in Belarus before moving to Turkey and continuing talks on and off until April. The resulting document appears loosely based on the 1990 treaty that created a united Germany, where Soviet Union troops quit East Germany on the condition that the country renounce nuclear weapons and cap the size of its army.
How did that work out for the USSR? Weren’t they “led by the nose” then? Didn’t Putin himself admit that? Why step on the same rake twice? Thrice? What are we even on at this point?
The draft treaty with Ukraine included banning foreign weapons, “including missile weapons of any type, armed forces and formations.” Moscow wanted Ukraine’s armed forces capped at 85,000 troops, 342 tanks and 519 artillery pieces. Ukrainian negotiators wanted 250,000 troops, 800 tanks and 1,900 artillery pieces, according to the document. Russia wanted to have the range of Ukrainian missiles capped at 40 kilometers (about 25 miles).
Other issues remained outstanding, notably what would happen if Ukraine was attacked. Russia wanted all guarantor states to agree on a response, meaning a unified response was unlikely if Russia itself was the aggressor. In case of an attack on Ukraine, Ukrainian negotiators wanted its airspace to then be closed, which would require guarantor states to enforce a no-fly zone, and the provision of weapons by the guarantors, a clause not approved by Russia.
Russia wanted to add Belarus as a guarantor; Ukraine wanted to add Turkey. Ukrainian negotiators italicized text indicating they refused to discuss a Russian clause requesting Kyiv withdraw claims for it to come under the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court, which prosecutes war crimes, according to the document. They also wouldn’t ratify a clause to cancel all mutual sanctions.
Negotiations continued—even over Zoom—but they eventually stopped altogether in June 2022.
The elites in Eastern Europe are so similar to your gay corporate bosses … you don’t even know …
So, that was the info drop. But, it helps to be able to contextualize this. No, this isn’t the first time we have heard about the Istanbul peace deal. With each leak, we are learning more and more, but it is clear that all interested parties have access to the document but are refusing to show it. That is the most interesting part to all of this. Both sides are clearly in cahoots to not release it to the public until after the SMO messiness has been cleaned up. Only then will it be revealed what an unnecessary farce it all was.
A reminder of what we know so far:
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Former Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine Alexander Chalyoy confirmed the version of the leader of the "Servants of the People" faction David Arahamia that Moscow and Kiev moved to peace during the Istanbul talks in the spring of 2022. But, unlike Arachamiya, who bluntly stated that the then British Prime Minister Boris Johnson influenced the final decision of Ukraine, Chaly says that the Istanbul accords were disrupted "for some unknown reason".
We covered what David Arahamia revealed several months ago:
So, basically, the WSJ are confirming his account. This, by extension, confirms what Arestovich was saying too, which we covered as well.
But now we have more relevant details about what exactly was in the deal.
According to the ex-deputy minister, Russian President Vladimir Putin "really wanted peace". The diplomat spoke about this during the debate in Geneva. Chaly also admitted that a compromise was reached in Turkey, and that it was "completely different from Russia's initial ultimatum proposal" made in Minsk, where in 2022 the first round of negotiations between Moscow and Kiev took place.
So the initial deal was generous as is. But by the time we get to Istanbul, things have changed drastically. Has Russia doubled down? Almost certainly not. Quite the opposite. They went in the opposite direction and offered still better terms.
However, for "unknown reasons" it was not possible to conclude peace, Chaly said.
At the end of November 2023, the head of the Zelensky party "The Servant of the People" David Arahamia also stated, that the conflict could end in the spring of 2022 if Ukraine agreed to neutrality. But Kiev was made by Britain to fight.
"When we returned from Istanbul, Boris Johnson came to Kiev and said that we would not sign anything with them at all. And "let's just fight," — he said. Earlier, this version was voiced by the Russian side.
Vladimir Putin himself submitted to the African delegation in June 2023 a draft Istanbul agreement on the Ukrainian settlement, where, as stated by the President of the Russian Federation, everything was registered: from the number of armed forces to units of military equipment and personnel.
"But after we promised, the troops were withdrawn from Kiev, the Kiev authorities, as their owners usually do, threw it all into the dump of history. Let's say so carefully. I will try to intelligently express myself. They refused it, "— Putin said.
Fooled again!
Former adviser to Zelensky Alexey Arestovich (* included in the list of terrorists and extremists in Russia) recognized that it was more profitable for the Ukrainian regime to fulfill the Istanbul agreements that were reached back in March 2022 than to fight against Russia. He said that he was a member of the negotiation group, but did not know why they were interrupted. At that time, a provocation was suddenly organized in Bucha with accusations of the Russian military of atrocities.
As a refresher, here is what Arestovich said:
The executive summary of what the leak let us in on plus some extra speculation:
The Kremlin essentially initially wanted Ukraine with a smaller army that wouldn't be in NATO
There is absolutely nothing in these demands related to what Putin told Tucker about Kiev being forced to institute censorship and hate speech laws against Nazism and nationalism
There is no mention of the fate of the DNR/LNR in the terms, only that Putin was having side-talks with Zelensky to figure this out
When Kiev didn't agree to the original pre-SMO demands, Moscow did the SMO and repeated the same demands again while parked in Kiev
As the situation escalated, Moscow gradually gave ground and eventually they put Crimea on the table*
Moscow agreed to terms that included the handover of DNR/LNR**
NATO sensed blood in the water and they decided to just prolong the war because obviously the Kremlin weren’t ready to get serious and the invasion was revealed to be a joke by April
Shoigu’s army flees Kiev leaving behind lots of military equipment and supplies as a show of good faith to their esteemed Kievan partners
Kiev quickly reneges on the deal, war begins in earnest, NATO floods in weapons
Russia spends the next two years banging its head against the wall of UAF fortifications, with both sides incurring horrific casualties
*Crimea was mentioned by Lukashenko and Arestovich. No info in this leak about Crimea, because it only provided us with the very initial demands of Moscow, which were identical to the demands they had pre-SMO. Again, very generous for someone who is supposedly intent on “de-nazifying” and battling the great Anal-Satan until Judgement Day dawns. And the terms offered to the NATO-Nazis almost certainly became increasingly more generous as negotiations went on.
**For a war that was supposedly done to liberate DNR/LNR (to say nothing of Kiev, Odessa, Kharkov), isn’t it strange that the demand to unhand Donbass isn’t anywhere to be found?
The biggest question is:
Why has the Kremlin not shared these initial peace treaty demands?
Why keep it a mystery?
Simple. It is because Moscow’s terms are extremely generous that they are reluctant to reveal the terms of the agreement. Lest the Russian people and Russians in Ukraine find out that Putin sold them down the river, essentially.
I am building up my case slowly, methodically. Each new small reveal or development is pretty much in line with the thesis that I have advanced so far. Let’s keep our noses to the scent and see what fresh new treacheries we can sniff out in the coming weeks and months.
> "Conversely, it is hard to understand why it was so morally imperative for the West to get involved."
My theory of why the West turned this into a moralized Current Thing crisis rests on the following factors+assumptions:
- Afghanistan pull-out effectively ended the mid-east forever war a few months previously (MIC needs a new paypig)
- 6+ years of blaming Russia for everything (eg. Trump) in the media and by the current ruling faction in DC
- Threatens to expose or interrupt the networks of money laundering, black-sites, off books biolabs and god knows what else the US has been running through Ukraine since 2014
- The number of beltway mcmansions built on Ukraine "aid" funds
- The best opportunity to kill Nord Stream for good and drive a permanent wedge between Russia and EU particularly Germany
It's usually easier to start a war than to end one, and very difficult to keep a war nicely limited and managed to promptly achieve clear objectives, and without leaving the loser plotting revenge. Putin is prudent to try to get out after obtaining his main objective of Ukrainian neutrality. He's also prudent to be building a bigger stick whilst talking softly.
Often war aims are manufactured after the war has been going for some time. People become emotionally invested. They want vengeance, humiliation of the enemy and greedy gains which of course stimulate resentment and stubborn opposition on the other side.
The longer this conflict runs the greater will be the gains which Russian society and their military will demand to justify their efforts and sacrifices, and Putin or his successor will be obliged to insist on stiffer terms.
The yids running America will never give up shoving the goyim into the meatgrinder to destroy each other. America is quite likely to run into serious internal social and economic problems soon, and that will distract them from Ukraine , so they will have to abandon it - unless excited into a crazy nuclear action by anger at some spectacular Russian success. Continued patient slow grinding seems the most prudent Russian policy until Ukrainian society, economy and military implodes, probably next year.