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Mick's avatar

> "Conversely, it is hard to understand why it was so morally imperative for the West to get involved."

My theory of why the West turned this into a moralized Current Thing crisis rests on the following factors+assumptions:

- Afghanistan pull-out effectively ended the mid-east forever war a few months previously (MIC needs a new paypig)

- 6+ years of blaming Russia for everything (eg. Trump) in the media and by the current ruling faction in DC

- Threatens to expose or interrupt the networks of money laundering, black-sites, off books biolabs and god knows what else the US has been running through Ukraine since 2014

- The number of beltway mcmansions built on Ukraine "aid" funds

- The best opportunity to kill Nord Stream for good and drive a permanent wedge between Russia and EU particularly Germany

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Phoenix's avatar

It's usually easier to start a war than to end one, and very difficult to keep a war nicely limited and managed to promptly achieve clear objectives, and without leaving the loser plotting revenge. Putin is prudent to try to get out after obtaining his main objective of Ukrainian neutrality. He's also prudent to be building a bigger stick whilst talking softly.

Often war aims are manufactured after the war has been going for some time. People become emotionally invested. They want vengeance, humiliation of the enemy and greedy gains which of course stimulate resentment and stubborn opposition on the other side.

The longer this conflict runs the greater will be the gains which Russian society and their military will demand to justify their efforts and sacrifices, and Putin or his successor will be obliged to insist on stiffer terms.

The yids running America will never give up shoving the goyim into the meatgrinder to destroy each other. America is quite likely to run into serious internal social and economic problems soon, and that will distract them from Ukraine , so they will have to abandon it - unless excited into a crazy nuclear action by anger at some spectacular Russian success. Continued patient slow grinding seems the most prudent Russian policy until Ukrainian society, economy and military implodes, probably next year.

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