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JimZ's avatar

The attack is floundering.....be careful what you say. This is just the first early attempts or maybe probes of the Russian defenses and is no way predictive of an outcome. This is just the start of the counter offensive which will go on for weeks or many weeks or more. The big celebration of a couple of Leopard tanks and Bradley vehicles running over some mines is no big deal. So sit down and get ready for the real action when it gets going. And then go back and reread what you wrote.

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I simply believe the day of the massed attack and tanks is finished. Anything that moves on the ground can be targeted and got at any time. Both sides know where everything is. Computer algorithms can watch screens and detect movement , forward targeting into, steer drones to investigate, steer drones to attack.

Right now no one can get total dominance in that field any more than they can get total dominance of the air for aircraft.

While you don't have total dominance the other side can still potentially see, target and destroy anything you do.

If you do successfully attack you must immediately dig in and hide and you can't be supplied. You can't do troop rotations. You can't bring in more heavy equipment/tanks. Anything moving on a road especially a well known, well travelled route is on a suicide mission. Or the other side simply isn't trying.

So on the basis of that vast simplification I don't think Kiev can 'win' this ploy.

But, of course, as Rolo says ( I think ) there's something very strange on the Allied side and we can't be sure the basic principles will hold good.

But if everyone 'plays by the book' those facts of today's warfare must dictate what happens.

Over the ground and even air warfare have gone the way of warships.

It is electronic measures and counter measures and 'robots' - drones - that are fighting the war now.

Fighting the war on the battlefield I mean.

Which is theatre. The 21C colosseum, 'circuses' for the masses.

The real war - well I don't know where it is or what it is about or who's fighting it.

I thought I knew. Rolo punched holes in that belief. :)

But I'm betting Kiev cannot make it through the Allied armies to the coast without blatant obvious sabotage and malpractice on the part of the Allies.

Where, I wonder, a this point, is the 'second front' attack by the Allies that will draw the strength of Kiev, split their attention, manpower, materiel, command cohesion?

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