Well said, sums up the view of the Russian Patriot crowd succinctly. Pretty much all their major and minor figures are saying "yeah we are just trying not to do 1917 again". This is from the whole eclectic spectrum from Neo-monarchists to neo-nazis to nazibols. There is definitely an implicit anxiety that if the war isn't actually won that there will be collapse. The current Oligarchy will destroy the state eventually, and the only way to defang the Oligarchy is to keep the war going. I can't remember now who said it but one dude I follow said something along the lines of "this may be the most blatant example of an Army thats at war with both an external enemy and its own ruling class". The only other example that comes close is maybe South Africas army in the twilight years of apartheid. Many armies have been stabbed in the back but the Russians right now are just be systematically sabotaged with a consistentcy that has no parallel due to the sheer scale. I mean is it not much an exaggeration to say that the Russian military is being outright martyred?
I was listening to some neo Soviet boomer economist interview and he brought up a point that sounds plausible enough and affirms your thesis about the Kremlin version of victory being a frozen conflict. According to the boomer the current crop of Oligarchs are actually the most paranoid towards young and up and coming liberals specifically because thats who they know Zog wants to replace them with. This does explain why Moscow did move so quickly to shut down and drive out the liberal opposition. And than nothing. The current Oligarchs know damn well they were installed by zog to begin with, and they know Zog is pretty displeased with them for not doing even more to sabotage the not war.
Winning the war outright requires changes that they dont want to mess with, outright surrender means Zogs new young liberals will replace them. The longer the war goes on the more variables are introduced that they have to deal with. The more they are seen sabotaging the angrier the public mood becomes. But sabotage is exactly how they keep their incomes flowing. So they cant stop, but they also cant hide it. They need a settlement now, but they also cant surrender outright because Zog has new generation to replace them with. The same people Moscow let flee.
Originally I thought the Oligarchy would be in favour of unconditional surrender more or less but the boomers theory also is pretty plausible. Its seriously Trotskys we aren't surrendering outright but we also arent going to fight approach to WW1 redux. Of course that didn't work out for Trotsky and his British handlers and I suspect it wont work for the Oligarchs.
But yeah the whole idea is end the war quick so our crimes arent under such a micro scope and patriotic outrage isnt directed at us constantly. All it will take is one figure head for things to spin out of control. Prigozhin is already making veiled threats. But also no victory, if Russia wins than to many variables will be introduced into the body politic. Maybe there will be a national soul searching, maybe Prigozhin will ride in as Putins successor if his name is associated with victory, no we cant have that. Maybe a more fleshed out Russian identity will emerge, something concrete. This has to be avoided. But we also cant capitalute 100% on the US's terms because they will insist the liberals be let back in. If the liberals come back they will be out for our blood just as much as the patriots. We will have no friends at all.
So strong agree that Moscow's goal is frozen, no victory, no outright surrender, and the sooner the better. Now how tangible that is is very questionable. Its actually ridiculously unlikely as long as ZOG smells blood, and as long as Moscow is fighting a flaccid cucks not war they will smell blood. Its pretty much possible only in Moscows alternate reality.
Because of the way (3GW) Russia has chosen to fight this war, they are rightly viewed as a Terror State. Russia will never be readmitted into the family of nations (see recent UN vote).
Russia is the new North Korea, a Chinese vassal state, useful only as China’s pitbull.
China covets Russian national resources. Indeed China views some Russian territory as theirs. China will allow Russia to impale themselves on the Western spike (Ukraine)...then pick up the pieces. In fact, a nuclear conflict between Russia and the West is in China’s interest.
Well, the Chinese (nor any authoritarian state) have ever been known for creativity (or did you mean to say compete?). The USSR/Russia and China basically stole/steal Western technology because creativity cannot exist in states rules by terror. And yes, authoritarian states are ruled by terror. And yes, the US is increasingly becoming authoritarian also.
The big question is, how to implement such reforms, without the chosenites crying and yelling "antisemitism" for six million years to come?
The last people who did that, are demonized by the Kremlin as well.
All these oligarch elements are jewish, there I said it, and the entire "denazification" of Ukraine narrative would have to change as well, as it consolidates precisely this traitorous power.
I can't think of a more stupid idea, than to storm into Ukraine with Hammer and sickle red flags, and seriously expect applause. You can't get a better motivation as enemy.
It suggests there are influential forces within Russia, who know what would have to be done, in short, sign peace with Germany, which involves territorial questions(Kaliningrad/Königsberg or with Japan Kuriles) and revision of history. Fenenko states bluntly, the current order is built in the inequality in international relations of Germany and Japan, ie enemy states.
I view the Ukraine war part of this process, which is more about the frozen status of Germany than Ukraine.
A faint reminder on RT, with the number cultists having some fun on 3.13. 2023
Totally agree. 'Denazification' plus hammer & sickle is what is dragging the Russian case down. They try to embellish it with 'family values', but it doesn't quite work as intended, it seems...I read recently in Tsargrad (Putin oriented channel) that Russia is fighting 'to liberate Third World from the Western oppression'. Amazing.
An alternative to the theory that Russian oligarchs are just pro-western in their outlook and just want to go back to business-as-normal is that Russia itself is a globohomo vassal state owned by the Rothschilds who own the Russian central bank (and it was during the Soviet Union as well), and everything is downstream of that. This would explain why Nabiullina gets nominated for another term after having $400 billion dollars of Russian funds seized by the west, it would explain why Russia is fully compliant and up-to-date with CBDC development, why they were fully onboard with the Jewish heart attack jab and fraudvirus shutdowns, etc.
In this alternative approach, the whole war is fake and gay and meant to further Great Reset objectives (I could list something like 10 Great Reset objectives this war furthers), which lines up to an extent with the oligarchs-want-business-as-normal theory, all while "dumb goy" white Christian slavs kill each other uselessly.
The real question in this approach is whether globohomo lets Putin and the oligarchs stay in power as vassals pursuant to whatever backroom deal was negotiated pre-war, or if globohomo gets extra greedy and breaks the deal with lucre in their eyes.
How can you not know what a central bank digital currency is at this point? How are you not aware of the ramifications of its implementation? It's been covered extensively in dissident blogs and news articles for the past 5 years.
What you describe is crackpot right wing conspiracy theory about digital currency. That's the mirror reflection of "global warming" or "white suprematism" leftist conspiracy theories
I have not expressed this before, but the thought has crossed my mind a number of times: We need more war. More destruction, more bloodshed.
Nuclear fuelled MAD has prevented necessary wars, and thus we have become fat, lazy, unmotivated, do-nothing self-indulged liberals (libertines?). I am of course writing from a western perspective, but you seem to indicate a similar POV on the eastern side of things.
Btw: The desert wars don't count, the power disparity was too big.
Rolo, do you have a recommendation on where I can read about the unjust peace of the 90s and 00s where millions died? I want to learn more. Great essay by the way. I also wonder how "profitable" trade with the West will remain with bank failures starting and US political opposition rising to sending money aboad vs care for its own homeland and citizens. It could very well be that the Liberal Opposition banked on a Trojan Horse. Or to mix metaphors, the music in musical chairs is ending and they've yet to realize that quite a few more chairs are being removed than one.
Interesting question - 31 years since the Belovezha Accords and then "Privatization". A massive "Academic" sector in the West - yet I can barely think of a single systematic account of those crucial years. A few individual participants, mostly US "financial consultants" have published books that are more like memoirs. Maybe that's because it was not or has not yet become an "historical event" - it's more like a crime scene. Same might be said of Sept 11., 2001. You might think that first, civil engineers would have rushed cri de coeur books into print on the urgent need to make high rise buildings safer. Crickets.
Putin has vaguely alluded in at least one recent speech to the massive theft of Russian wealth that took place during the 1990s. We have discussed that speech here. He could say much more; he or Russian intelligence services could say much more about what happened on Sept 11. But they do not. Anyone know what the Russian academic output has been on these issues?
See, here's my thought. Most Americans interpret Putin saying the fall of the USSR was a huge tragedy as meaning he desires above all to rebuild & reinstate the Soviet Union. I think that's ridiculous. His statement doesn't imply a desired fix or remedy - he only said it WAS a huge tragedy and untold many were hurt badly. Now we know about the privatization schemes, how regular people were ripped off and Russia was asset-stripped. No doubt that hurt people. But here in the US, or I daresay in Western Europe, we know little about the actual human toll. Were 10,000 grannies left out in the cold to die, that kind of thing? Hence my question about the millions (of people) who died. And what did an "unjust peace" have to do with it? Like were those grannies left to die as a price of keeping the asset-stripping oligarchs from orchestrating an even worse breakdown of Russia and the former republics?
Ive read Russia is firing 5x the artillery as Ukraine and that the majority of casualties are by artillery. So if that’s true, then Russian kda must be a lot more than 2:1. Youre upset the war is going too slowly but why do you set a time limit if the Russian economy is doing fine and it’s the west that struggles? Maybe my assumptions are wrong about the Russian economy and Russia can not sustain this for as long as the west can. Could someone point me towards sources for that?
At least on the tactical front there seems to be an improvement. Although it has been known since the Middle Ages that you do not attack a fortress head-on, but surround it, and initiate a siege, until they are starved out. Russia seems to be doing this in Bakhmut, and in Avdiivka as well. It seems very clear that a complete tactical shift has occurred. Russia is also building massive defenses in the South. It looks like they want Ukraine to go on the offensive, and have their soldiers butt their heads on a brick wall.
You may moan about your oligarchs, but for God's sake, look at the West. Our current crop of Jewish oligarchs is busy destroying our History, our Culture (anti-White racism, transgenderism, and the whole post-modern lunacy, e.g. Science is a Social Construct), our working-class economy, indulging in the utter madness of the climate cult. Compared to that, Russia has it good.
So fighting an external war is the path to internal reform? And your idea of internal reform is less liberal and more authoritarian? Face it, Putin never had a conventional military capable of taking on NATO or even Ukraine for that matter. Putin’s calculus was, in the aftermath of Afghanistan, the US and the West would not resist an incursion into Ukraine. In short, it was a bluff. Putin lost.
Actually, it is rather common for external wars to lead to internal shake ups - both 'liberal' and 'authoritarian'. Russians in WWI, Americans in Vietnam are just a few examples to come to mind. That was the point here, not 'Putin lost'.
You confuse “consequence” with “purpose”. External wars are not purposely fought to effect internal change. The internal change is an unintended consequence.
Right, and this is exactly the point here. It's not like Putin, or Putin's circles, started the war to implement internal changes. It's more like such 'unintended consequences' could very well be the result of it regardless of original intentions.
Did you read the post? Rolo's point (and my question) was do you advocate fighting a war effect internal change. And...he answers my question in the affirmative above "Authoritarianism is the path forward". Nobody is arguing that wars don't have unintended consequences. Of course they do. Rolo is arguing the opposite. e.g. fight a war to purposely effect internal change. Seems like a lot of unneeded death, but hey, whatever floats your boat.
Thomas, what other options Russians have at this given moment? If 'Putin lost', then what? Return with vengeance to the rule of plutocracy as usual, partition of the country, division of remaining resources amongst oligarchs, repressions, both physical and financial, and so forth? All of the above resulting in many, many unneeded deaths, just like it was in the 90s. You seem to be OK with that, as long as the system is not called 'authoritarian', but for many people out there it would be the least desirable outcome. Winning this war would give them a chance at national resurrection. Losing would mean ultimate death, as a nation.
The other question is if it was possible to clean up the house first and deal with outside issues second. Probably, it was. This chance is lost by now, however.
I suppose you are right and I sense the pain you are feeling. At this point I don't think there are any good answers. Better to settle it on the battlefield I suppose.
I am late here - but This Just In (speaking of Milosovic - can't get any closer to that playbook!)"
"The International Criminal Court issued an arrest warrant Friday for Russian President Vladimir Putin, accusing him of being responsible for war crimes in Ukraine."
I think Rolo gets a "prescient" star today! So, Putin will not be going to G20 after all ?- it was just announced he was - New Delhi - September 2023.
They aren’t advancing and a hostile anti-Russian “Israel” on their borders is here to stay for the foreseeable future. Unquote
Attached evidence of Igor/Harry Berkut (Gekko), made 4+ years ago?, which seems predicting „ethnic cleansing“ in areas, which are effectively now contested.
I don t see any point în destroying those bridges. The western arms would just pile up în central and western Ukraine, where is way more hard to destroy them. Yes AFU wpuld be more easy to be beated în the Donbas but they would just cross the Dnipre and them you have to fight them there with is more difficult because you have to do it from Belarus. Plus those bridges are very hard to destroy, there are 32 of them, very well built. You can t sent planes with FAB s because of AA, so you would need a shitload of kalibrs, at least 10 per bridge. But then again what s the Point? Why not fighting AFU în the Donbass where logistics are close to the border? As For olighars needing those bridges....? Why not just sent your stuff throw Belarus? Whatever the russians bomb they have to build back, they wont let Ukraine become Afganistan , so they don t bomb like the americans like savages.
You shouldn't use acronyms, it's bad form and obfuscates what you write.
3GW = conventional warfare
CBDC = digital currency
FAB = thermobaric bomb
I don't want to solve puzzles all the time here. It's not that I don't know the concept behind the acronym, if I don't know the acronym. You are confusing just recognizing the label, with knowing the thing in itself.
Be sure there is always a plain English alternative to any acronym you want to feel smug using.
Also, it can be inferred from your tone that you think knowledge of thermobaric bombs is pre-requisite for reading here. I don't think that's the case.
Yes I do, but they still have to be delivered by planes. No planes can fly there, to much AA. So that leaves only missiles, lots of them. Can t be done.
Well said, sums up the view of the Russian Patriot crowd succinctly. Pretty much all their major and minor figures are saying "yeah we are just trying not to do 1917 again". This is from the whole eclectic spectrum from Neo-monarchists to neo-nazis to nazibols. There is definitely an implicit anxiety that if the war isn't actually won that there will be collapse. The current Oligarchy will destroy the state eventually, and the only way to defang the Oligarchy is to keep the war going. I can't remember now who said it but one dude I follow said something along the lines of "this may be the most blatant example of an Army thats at war with both an external enemy and its own ruling class". The only other example that comes close is maybe South Africas army in the twilight years of apartheid. Many armies have been stabbed in the back but the Russians right now are just be systematically sabotaged with a consistentcy that has no parallel due to the sheer scale. I mean is it not much an exaggeration to say that the Russian military is being outright martyred?
I was listening to some neo Soviet boomer economist interview and he brought up a point that sounds plausible enough and affirms your thesis about the Kremlin version of victory being a frozen conflict. According to the boomer the current crop of Oligarchs are actually the most paranoid towards young and up and coming liberals specifically because thats who they know Zog wants to replace them with. This does explain why Moscow did move so quickly to shut down and drive out the liberal opposition. And than nothing. The current Oligarchs know damn well they were installed by zog to begin with, and they know Zog is pretty displeased with them for not doing even more to sabotage the not war.
Winning the war outright requires changes that they dont want to mess with, outright surrender means Zogs new young liberals will replace them. The longer the war goes on the more variables are introduced that they have to deal with. The more they are seen sabotaging the angrier the public mood becomes. But sabotage is exactly how they keep their incomes flowing. So they cant stop, but they also cant hide it. They need a settlement now, but they also cant surrender outright because Zog has new generation to replace them with. The same people Moscow let flee.
Originally I thought the Oligarchy would be in favour of unconditional surrender more or less but the boomers theory also is pretty plausible. Its seriously Trotskys we aren't surrendering outright but we also arent going to fight approach to WW1 redux. Of course that didn't work out for Trotsky and his British handlers and I suspect it wont work for the Oligarchs.
But yeah the whole idea is end the war quick so our crimes arent under such a micro scope and patriotic outrage isnt directed at us constantly. All it will take is one figure head for things to spin out of control. Prigozhin is already making veiled threats. But also no victory, if Russia wins than to many variables will be introduced into the body politic. Maybe there will be a national soul searching, maybe Prigozhin will ride in as Putins successor if his name is associated with victory, no we cant have that. Maybe a more fleshed out Russian identity will emerge, something concrete. This has to be avoided. But we also cant capitalute 100% on the US's terms because they will insist the liberals be let back in. If the liberals come back they will be out for our blood just as much as the patriots. We will have no friends at all.
So strong agree that Moscow's goal is frozen, no victory, no outright surrender, and the sooner the better. Now how tangible that is is very questionable. Its actually ridiculously unlikely as long as ZOG smells blood, and as long as Moscow is fighting a flaccid cucks not war they will smell blood. Its pretty much possible only in Moscows alternate reality.
It is a crying shame that the patriots are unorganized in Russia.
No real 6th column to speak of. Just like MAGA in the US.
It seems like if there isn’t a spook agenda providing organization and support, nothing forms organically.
And Azov style “take the enemy’s money and then turn on them” strategy is a total cope as well.
Because of the way (3GW) Russia has chosen to fight this war, they are rightly viewed as a Terror State. Russia will never be readmitted into the family of nations (see recent UN vote).
Russia is the new North Korea, a Chinese vassal state, useful only as China’s pitbull.
China covets Russian national resources. Indeed China views some Russian territory as theirs. China will allow Russia to impale themselves on the Western spike (Ukraine)...then pick up the pieces. In fact, a nuclear conflict between Russia and the West is in China’s interest.
Yeah, but the reaper will come for China as well.
No one can create a merchant-based empire that can create with Israel. Not even the Chinese.
Well, the Chinese (nor any authoritarian state) have ever been known for creativity (or did you mean to say compete?). The USSR/Russia and China basically stole/steal Western technology because creativity cannot exist in states rules by terror. And yes, authoritarian states are ruled by terror. And yes, the US is increasingly becoming authoritarian also.
I did mean compete and authoritarian states are the freest, most prosperous and most fair states.
Oh, that explains why Cuba, Venezuela, and Russia produce so many goods and services...as long as you do what "Dear Leader" says of course.
Don't look now but oil just dropped to less that $70 a bbl. "Prosperous" Russia in trouble.
You seem confused about what authoritarian means.
3GW = Third Generation Wireless?
Seriously, what's wrong with Americans and acronyms?
I cannot fully understand the premise, and hence all the nuances of your post if you don't spell out that acronym.
His post is just a long-winded way of saying he is gay
Of course you resort to the logic deprived ad-hominem attack because you cannot argue your position. Typical of your ilk.
Third Generation Warfare.
Cool
The big question is, how to implement such reforms, without the chosenites crying and yelling "antisemitism" for six million years to come?
The last people who did that, are demonized by the Kremlin as well.
All these oligarch elements are jewish, there I said it, and the entire "denazification" of Ukraine narrative would have to change as well, as it consolidates precisely this traitorous power.
I can't think of a more stupid idea, than to storm into Ukraine with Hammer and sickle red flags, and seriously expect applause. You can't get a better motivation as enemy.
the only way is to step over semitic morality plays.
I agree, at what point will the Kremlin say "screw the narrative"? Will they ever?
Is it total delusion of telling the Poles a tale of "liberation" by the Red Army? Like in Katyn?
Is it deliberate, that Lavrov spreads lies about the origin of a certain great statesman?
Didn't Putin look kind of proud, when he returned the Chabad archives, pointing out that 80-85% of the Bolsheviks were jewish?
On the other hand, I previously posted this interview with Alexey Fenenko, no Scott Ritter, Mac Gregor or any other 5D specialist would touch.
Pretty straight forward, sadly never subtitled in english.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnTX1dt-f7U
It suggests there are influential forces within Russia, who know what would have to be done, in short, sign peace with Germany, which involves territorial questions(Kaliningrad/Königsberg or with Japan Kuriles) and revision of history. Fenenko states bluntly, the current order is built in the inequality in international relations of Germany and Japan, ie enemy states.
I view the Ukraine war part of this process, which is more about the frozen status of Germany than Ukraine.
A faint reminder on RT, with the number cultists having some fun on 3.13. 2023
https://www.rt.com/russia/572883-germany-not-independent-patrushev/
Few years back ...
https://www.cfr.org/article/liberal-world-order-rip
Totally agree. 'Denazification' plus hammer & sickle is what is dragging the Russian case down. They try to embellish it with 'family values', but it doesn't quite work as intended, it seems...I read recently in Tsargrad (Putin oriented channel) that Russia is fighting 'to liberate Third World from the Western oppression'. Amazing.
An alternative to the theory that Russian oligarchs are just pro-western in their outlook and just want to go back to business-as-normal is that Russia itself is a globohomo vassal state owned by the Rothschilds who own the Russian central bank (and it was during the Soviet Union as well), and everything is downstream of that. This would explain why Nabiullina gets nominated for another term after having $400 billion dollars of Russian funds seized by the west, it would explain why Russia is fully compliant and up-to-date with CBDC development, why they were fully onboard with the Jewish heart attack jab and fraudvirus shutdowns, etc.
In this alternative approach, the whole war is fake and gay and meant to further Great Reset objectives (I could list something like 10 Great Reset objectives this war furthers), which lines up to an extent with the oligarchs-want-business-as-normal theory, all while "dumb goy" white Christian slavs kill each other uselessly.
The real question in this approach is whether globohomo lets Putin and the oligarchs stay in power as vassals pursuant to whatever backroom deal was negotiated pre-war, or if globohomo gets extra greedy and breaks the deal with lucre in their eyes.
What the hell is CBDC? It takes less time for you to spell it out than for me to look it up on google.
And on average people don't make the effort to look words up, so part of your message, however tiny, effectively got lost.
How can you not know what a central bank digital currency is at this point? How are you not aware of the ramifications of its implementation? It's been covered extensively in dissident blogs and news articles for the past 5 years.
digital currency then
What you describe is crackpot right wing conspiracy theory about digital currency. That's the mirror reflection of "global warming" or "white suprematism" leftist conspiracy theories
I have not expressed this before, but the thought has crossed my mind a number of times: We need more war. More destruction, more bloodshed.
Nuclear fuelled MAD has prevented necessary wars, and thus we have become fat, lazy, unmotivated, do-nothing self-indulged liberals (libertines?). I am of course writing from a western perspective, but you seem to indicate a similar POV on the eastern side of things.
Btw: The desert wars don't count, the power disparity was too big.
More PTSD too.
Rolo, do you have a recommendation on where I can read about the unjust peace of the 90s and 00s where millions died? I want to learn more. Great essay by the way. I also wonder how "profitable" trade with the West will remain with bank failures starting and US political opposition rising to sending money aboad vs care for its own homeland and citizens. It could very well be that the Liberal Opposition banked on a Trojan Horse. Or to mix metaphors, the music in musical chairs is ending and they've yet to realize that quite a few more chairs are being removed than one.
Sorry, I don't, really. It's a crying shame that there isn't one I can share.
Interesting question - 31 years since the Belovezha Accords and then "Privatization". A massive "Academic" sector in the West - yet I can barely think of a single systematic account of those crucial years. A few individual participants, mostly US "financial consultants" have published books that are more like memoirs. Maybe that's because it was not or has not yet become an "historical event" - it's more like a crime scene. Same might be said of Sept 11., 2001. You might think that first, civil engineers would have rushed cri de coeur books into print on the urgent need to make high rise buildings safer. Crickets.
Putin has vaguely alluded in at least one recent speech to the massive theft of Russian wealth that took place during the 1990s. We have discussed that speech here. He could say much more; he or Russian intelligence services could say much more about what happened on Sept 11. But they do not. Anyone know what the Russian academic output has been on these issues?
I know what William Luther Pierce said. But no one would take his prescient words seriously.
See, here's my thought. Most Americans interpret Putin saying the fall of the USSR was a huge tragedy as meaning he desires above all to rebuild & reinstate the Soviet Union. I think that's ridiculous. His statement doesn't imply a desired fix or remedy - he only said it WAS a huge tragedy and untold many were hurt badly. Now we know about the privatization schemes, how regular people were ripped off and Russia was asset-stripped. No doubt that hurt people. But here in the US, or I daresay in Western Europe, we know little about the actual human toll. Were 10,000 grannies left out in the cold to die, that kind of thing? Hence my question about the millions (of people) who died. And what did an "unjust peace" have to do with it? Like were those grannies left to die as a price of keeping the asset-stripping oligarchs from orchestrating an even worse breakdown of Russia and the former republics?
Ive read Russia is firing 5x the artillery as Ukraine and that the majority of casualties are by artillery. So if that’s true, then Russian kda must be a lot more than 2:1. Youre upset the war is going too slowly but why do you set a time limit if the Russian economy is doing fine and it’s the west that struggles? Maybe my assumptions are wrong about the Russian economy and Russia can not sustain this for as long as the west can. Could someone point me towards sources for that?
At least on the tactical front there seems to be an improvement. Although it has been known since the Middle Ages that you do not attack a fortress head-on, but surround it, and initiate a siege, until they are starved out. Russia seems to be doing this in Bakhmut, and in Avdiivka as well. It seems very clear that a complete tactical shift has occurred. Russia is also building massive defenses in the South. It looks like they want Ukraine to go on the offensive, and have their soldiers butt their heads on a brick wall.
You may moan about your oligarchs, but for God's sake, look at the West. Our current crop of Jewish oligarchs is busy destroying our History, our Culture (anti-White racism, transgenderism, and the whole post-modern lunacy, e.g. Science is a Social Construct), our working-class economy, indulging in the utter madness of the climate cult. Compared to that, Russia has it good.
So fighting an external war is the path to internal reform? And your idea of internal reform is less liberal and more authoritarian? Face it, Putin never had a conventional military capable of taking on NATO or even Ukraine for that matter. Putin’s calculus was, in the aftermath of Afghanistan, the US and the West would not resist an incursion into Ukraine. In short, it was a bluff. Putin lost.
Yes, Authoritarianism is the path forward.
Actually, it is rather common for external wars to lead to internal shake ups - both 'liberal' and 'authoritarian'. Russians in WWI, Americans in Vietnam are just a few examples to come to mind. That was the point here, not 'Putin lost'.
You confuse “consequence” with “purpose”. External wars are not purposely fought to effect internal change. The internal change is an unintended consequence.
Right, and this is exactly the point here. It's not like Putin, or Putin's circles, started the war to implement internal changes. It's more like such 'unintended consequences' could very well be the result of it regardless of original intentions.
Did you read the post? Rolo's point (and my question) was do you advocate fighting a war effect internal change. And...he answers my question in the affirmative above "Authoritarianism is the path forward". Nobody is arguing that wars don't have unintended consequences. Of course they do. Rolo is arguing the opposite. e.g. fight a war to purposely effect internal change. Seems like a lot of unneeded death, but hey, whatever floats your boat.
Thomas, what other options Russians have at this given moment? If 'Putin lost', then what? Return with vengeance to the rule of plutocracy as usual, partition of the country, division of remaining resources amongst oligarchs, repressions, both physical and financial, and so forth? All of the above resulting in many, many unneeded deaths, just like it was in the 90s. You seem to be OK with that, as long as the system is not called 'authoritarian', but for many people out there it would be the least desirable outcome. Winning this war would give them a chance at national resurrection. Losing would mean ultimate death, as a nation.
The other question is if it was possible to clean up the house first and deal with outside issues second. Probably, it was. This chance is lost by now, however.
I suppose you are right and I sense the pain you are feeling. At this point I don't think there are any good answers. Better to settle it on the battlefield I suppose.
I am late here - but This Just In (speaking of Milosovic - can't get any closer to that playbook!)"
"The International Criminal Court issued an arrest warrant Friday for Russian President Vladimir Putin, accusing him of being responsible for war crimes in Ukraine."
I think Rolo gets a "prescient" star today! So, Putin will not be going to G20 after all ?- it was just announced he was - New Delhi - September 2023.
Don't want to depress you, but here is some inside oligarch baseball, by John Helmer:
https://johnhelmer.net/is-the-bar-coming-down-on-the-dirtiest-of-the-russian-oligarchs/
quote
They aren’t advancing and a hostile anti-Russian “Israel” on their borders is here to stay for the foreseeable future. Unquote
Attached evidence of Igor/Harry Berkut (Gekko), made 4+ years ago?, which seems predicting „ethnic cleansing“ in areas, which are effectively now contested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCInqQFFGqs&t=2870s
https://youtu.be/gq9q9hCVq1s?t=1157
https://kazak-center.ru/publ/novosti_kazak_inform/krymskij_front/nebesnyj_ierusalim/164-1-0-4526?ysclid=lelwzbn991280021709
Any statements on these strange statements?
PS I do not speak Russian / Ukrainian at all, script tranlated with deepl.com
I don t see any point în destroying those bridges. The western arms would just pile up în central and western Ukraine, where is way more hard to destroy them. Yes AFU wpuld be more easy to be beated în the Donbas but they would just cross the Dnipre and them you have to fight them there with is more difficult because you have to do it from Belarus. Plus those bridges are very hard to destroy, there are 32 of them, very well built. You can t sent planes with FAB s because of AA, so you would need a shitload of kalibrs, at least 10 per bridge. But then again what s the Point? Why not fighting AFU în the Donbass where logistics are close to the border? As For olighars needing those bridges....? Why not just sent your stuff throw Belarus? Whatever the russians bomb they have to build back, they wont let Ukraine become Afganistan , so they don t bomb like the americans like savages.
With FAB I take you mean FAB-500, a Soviet-designed 500-kilogram (1,100 lb) general purpose air-dropped bomb with a high-explosive warhead?
Jeez, you don't know what 3GW, CBDC, or Fuel Air Bombs are. Maybe do some homework?
I mean:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fab
https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/3GW
You shouldn't use acronyms, it's bad form and obfuscates what you write.
3GW = conventional warfare
CBDC = digital currency
FAB = thermobaric bomb
I don't want to solve puzzles all the time here. It's not that I don't know the concept behind the acronym, if I don't know the acronym. You are confusing just recognizing the label, with knowing the thing in itself.
Be sure there is always a plain English alternative to any acronym you want to feel smug using.
Also, it can be inferred from your tone that you think knowledge of thermobaric bombs is pre-requisite for reading here. I don't think that's the case.
Yes I do, but they still have to be delivered by planes. No planes can fly there, to much AA. So that leaves only missiles, lots of them. Can t be done.
My comment was for Frantic. I agree with you.
Yep.
(Slap) Snap out of it! lol ...