Well said, sums up the view of the Russian Patriot crowd succinctly. Pretty much all their major and minor figures are saying "yeah we are just trying not to do 1917 again". This is from the whole eclectic spectrum from Neo-monarchists to neo-nazis to nazibols. There is definitely an implicit anxiety that if the war isn't actually won that there will be collapse. The current Oligarchy will destroy the state eventually, and the only way to defang the Oligarchy is to keep the war going. I can't remember now who said it but one dude I follow said something along the lines of "this may be the most blatant example of an Army thats at war with both an external enemy and its own ruling class". The only other example that comes close is maybe South Africas army in the twilight years of apartheid. Many armies have been stabbed in the back but the Russians right now are just be systematically sabotaged with a consistentcy that has no parallel due to the sheer scale. I mean is it not much an exaggeration to say that the Russian military is being outright martyred?
I was listening to some neo Soviet boomer economist interview and he brought up a point that sounds plausible enough and affirms your thesis about the Kremlin version of victory being a frozen conflict. According to the boomer the current crop of Oligarchs are actually the most paranoid towards young and up and coming liberals specifically because thats who they know Zog wants to replace them with. This does explain why Moscow did move so quickly to shut down and drive out the liberal opposition. And than nothing. The current Oligarchs know damn well they were installed by zog to begin with, and they know Zog is pretty displeased with them for not doing even more to sabotage the not war.
Winning the war outright requires changes that they dont want to mess with, outright surrender means Zogs new young liberals will replace them. The longer the war goes on the more variables are introduced that they have to deal with. The more they are seen sabotaging the angrier the public mood becomes. But sabotage is exactly how they keep their incomes flowing. So they cant stop, but they also cant hide it. They need a settlement now, but they also cant surrender outright because Zog has new generation to replace them with. The same people Moscow let flee.
Originally I thought the Oligarchy would be in favour of unconditional surrender more or less but the boomers theory also is pretty plausible. Its seriously Trotskys we aren't surrendering outright but we also arent going to fight approach to WW1 redux. Of course that didn't work out for Trotsky and his British handlers and I suspect it wont work for the Oligarchs.
But yeah the whole idea is end the war quick so our crimes arent under such a micro scope and patriotic outrage isnt directed at us constantly. All it will take is one figure head for things to spin out of control. Prigozhin is already making veiled threats. But also no victory, if Russia wins than to many variables will be introduced into the body politic. Maybe there will be a national soul searching, maybe Prigozhin will ride in as Putins successor if his name is associated with victory, no we cant have that. Maybe a more fleshed out Russian identity will emerge, something concrete. This has to be avoided. But we also cant capitalute 100% on the US's terms because they will insist the liberals be let back in. If the liberals come back they will be out for our blood just as much as the patriots. We will have no friends at all.
So strong agree that Moscow's goal is frozen, no victory, no outright surrender, and the sooner the better. Now how tangible that is is very questionable. Its actually ridiculously unlikely as long as ZOG smells blood, and as long as Moscow is fighting a flaccid cucks not war they will smell blood. Its pretty much possible only in Moscows alternate reality.
The big question is, how to implement such reforms, without the chosenites crying and yelling "antisemitism" for six million years to come?
The last people who did that, are demonized by the Kremlin as well.
All these oligarch elements are jewish, there I said it, and the entire "denazification" of Ukraine narrative would have to change as well, as it consolidates precisely this traitorous power.
I can't think of a more stupid idea, than to storm into Ukraine with Hammer and sickle red flags, and seriously expect applause. You can't get a better motivation as enemy.
An alternative to the theory that Russian oligarchs are just pro-western in their outlook and just want to go back to business-as-normal is that Russia itself is a globohomo vassal state owned by the Rothschilds who own the Russian central bank (and it was during the Soviet Union as well), and everything is downstream of that. This would explain why Nabiullina gets nominated for another term after having $400 billion dollars of Russian funds seized by the west, it would explain why Russia is fully compliant and up-to-date with CBDC development, why they were fully onboard with the Jewish heart attack jab and fraudvirus shutdowns, etc.
In this alternative approach, the whole war is fake and gay and meant to further Great Reset objectives (I could list something like 10 Great Reset objectives this war furthers), which lines up to an extent with the oligarchs-want-business-as-normal theory, all while "dumb goy" white Christian slavs kill each other uselessly.
The real question in this approach is whether globohomo lets Putin and the oligarchs stay in power as vassals pursuant to whatever backroom deal was negotiated pre-war, or if globohomo gets extra greedy and breaks the deal with lucre in their eyes.
Mar 15, 2023·edited Mar 15, 2023Liked by Rurik Skywalker
I have not expressed this before, but the thought has crossed my mind a number of times: We need more war. More destruction, more bloodshed.
Nuclear fuelled MAD has prevented necessary wars, and thus we have become fat, lazy, unmotivated, do-nothing self-indulged liberals (libertines?). I am of course writing from a western perspective, but you seem to indicate a similar POV on the eastern side of things.
Btw: The desert wars don't count, the power disparity was too big.
Rolo, do you have a recommendation on where I can read about the unjust peace of the 90s and 00s where millions died? I want to learn more. Great essay by the way. I also wonder how "profitable" trade with the West will remain with bank failures starting and US political opposition rising to sending money aboad vs care for its own homeland and citizens. It could very well be that the Liberal Opposition banked on a Trojan Horse. Or to mix metaphors, the music in musical chairs is ending and they've yet to realize that quite a few more chairs are being removed than one.
Ive read Russia is firing 5x the artillery as Ukraine and that the majority of casualties are by artillery. So if that’s true, then Russian kda must be a lot more than 2:1. Youre upset the war is going too slowly but why do you set a time limit if the Russian economy is doing fine and it’s the west that struggles? Maybe my assumptions are wrong about the Russian economy and Russia can not sustain this for as long as the west can. Could someone point me towards sources for that?
At least on the tactical front there seems to be an improvement. Although it has been known since the Middle Ages that you do not attack a fortress head-on, but surround it, and initiate a siege, until they are starved out. Russia seems to be doing this in Bakhmut, and in Avdiivka as well. It seems very clear that a complete tactical shift has occurred. Russia is also building massive defenses in the South. It looks like they want Ukraine to go on the offensive, and have their soldiers butt their heads on a brick wall.
You may moan about your oligarchs, but for God's sake, look at the West. Our current crop of Jewish oligarchs is busy destroying our History, our Culture (anti-White racism, transgenderism, and the whole post-modern lunacy, e.g. Science is a Social Construct), our working-class economy, indulging in the utter madness of the climate cult. Compared to that, Russia has it good.
So fighting an external war is the path to internal reform? And your idea of internal reform is less liberal and more authoritarian? Face it, Putin never had a conventional military capable of taking on NATO or even Ukraine for that matter. Putin’s calculus was, in the aftermath of Afghanistan, the US and the West would not resist an incursion into Ukraine. In short, it was a bluff. Putin lost.
I am late here - but This Just In (speaking of Milosovic - can't get any closer to that playbook!)"
"The International Criminal Court issued an arrest warrant Friday for Russian President Vladimir Putin, accusing him of being responsible for war crimes in Ukraine."
I think Rolo gets a "prescient" star today! So, Putin will not be going to G20 after all ?- it was just announced he was - New Delhi - September 2023.
They aren’t advancing and a hostile anti-Russian “Israel” on their borders is here to stay for the foreseeable future. Unquote
Attached evidence of Igor/Harry Berkut (Gekko), made 4+ years ago?, which seems predicting „ethnic cleansing“ in areas, which are effectively now contested.
I don t see any point în destroying those bridges. The western arms would just pile up în central and western Ukraine, where is way more hard to destroy them. Yes AFU wpuld be more easy to be beated în the Donbas but they would just cross the Dnipre and them you have to fight them there with is more difficult because you have to do it from Belarus. Plus those bridges are very hard to destroy, there are 32 of them, very well built. You can t sent planes with FAB s because of AA, so you would need a shitload of kalibrs, at least 10 per bridge. But then again what s the Point? Why not fighting AFU în the Donbass where logistics are close to the border? As For olighars needing those bridges....? Why not just sent your stuff throw Belarus? Whatever the russians bomb they have to build back, they wont let Ukraine become Afganistan , so they don t bomb like the americans like savages.
Well said, sums up the view of the Russian Patriot crowd succinctly. Pretty much all their major and minor figures are saying "yeah we are just trying not to do 1917 again". This is from the whole eclectic spectrum from Neo-monarchists to neo-nazis to nazibols. There is definitely an implicit anxiety that if the war isn't actually won that there will be collapse. The current Oligarchy will destroy the state eventually, and the only way to defang the Oligarchy is to keep the war going. I can't remember now who said it but one dude I follow said something along the lines of "this may be the most blatant example of an Army thats at war with both an external enemy and its own ruling class". The only other example that comes close is maybe South Africas army in the twilight years of apartheid. Many armies have been stabbed in the back but the Russians right now are just be systematically sabotaged with a consistentcy that has no parallel due to the sheer scale. I mean is it not much an exaggeration to say that the Russian military is being outright martyred?
I was listening to some neo Soviet boomer economist interview and he brought up a point that sounds plausible enough and affirms your thesis about the Kremlin version of victory being a frozen conflict. According to the boomer the current crop of Oligarchs are actually the most paranoid towards young and up and coming liberals specifically because thats who they know Zog wants to replace them with. This does explain why Moscow did move so quickly to shut down and drive out the liberal opposition. And than nothing. The current Oligarchs know damn well they were installed by zog to begin with, and they know Zog is pretty displeased with them for not doing even more to sabotage the not war.
Winning the war outright requires changes that they dont want to mess with, outright surrender means Zogs new young liberals will replace them. The longer the war goes on the more variables are introduced that they have to deal with. The more they are seen sabotaging the angrier the public mood becomes. But sabotage is exactly how they keep their incomes flowing. So they cant stop, but they also cant hide it. They need a settlement now, but they also cant surrender outright because Zog has new generation to replace them with. The same people Moscow let flee.
Originally I thought the Oligarchy would be in favour of unconditional surrender more or less but the boomers theory also is pretty plausible. Its seriously Trotskys we aren't surrendering outright but we also arent going to fight approach to WW1 redux. Of course that didn't work out for Trotsky and his British handlers and I suspect it wont work for the Oligarchs.
But yeah the whole idea is end the war quick so our crimes arent under such a micro scope and patriotic outrage isnt directed at us constantly. All it will take is one figure head for things to spin out of control. Prigozhin is already making veiled threats. But also no victory, if Russia wins than to many variables will be introduced into the body politic. Maybe there will be a national soul searching, maybe Prigozhin will ride in as Putins successor if his name is associated with victory, no we cant have that. Maybe a more fleshed out Russian identity will emerge, something concrete. This has to be avoided. But we also cant capitalute 100% on the US's terms because they will insist the liberals be let back in. If the liberals come back they will be out for our blood just as much as the patriots. We will have no friends at all.
So strong agree that Moscow's goal is frozen, no victory, no outright surrender, and the sooner the better. Now how tangible that is is very questionable. Its actually ridiculously unlikely as long as ZOG smells blood, and as long as Moscow is fighting a flaccid cucks not war they will smell blood. Its pretty much possible only in Moscows alternate reality.
The big question is, how to implement such reforms, without the chosenites crying and yelling "antisemitism" for six million years to come?
The last people who did that, are demonized by the Kremlin as well.
All these oligarch elements are jewish, there I said it, and the entire "denazification" of Ukraine narrative would have to change as well, as it consolidates precisely this traitorous power.
I can't think of a more stupid idea, than to storm into Ukraine with Hammer and sickle red flags, and seriously expect applause. You can't get a better motivation as enemy.
An alternative to the theory that Russian oligarchs are just pro-western in their outlook and just want to go back to business-as-normal is that Russia itself is a globohomo vassal state owned by the Rothschilds who own the Russian central bank (and it was during the Soviet Union as well), and everything is downstream of that. This would explain why Nabiullina gets nominated for another term after having $400 billion dollars of Russian funds seized by the west, it would explain why Russia is fully compliant and up-to-date with CBDC development, why they were fully onboard with the Jewish heart attack jab and fraudvirus shutdowns, etc.
In this alternative approach, the whole war is fake and gay and meant to further Great Reset objectives (I could list something like 10 Great Reset objectives this war furthers), which lines up to an extent with the oligarchs-want-business-as-normal theory, all while "dumb goy" white Christian slavs kill each other uselessly.
The real question in this approach is whether globohomo lets Putin and the oligarchs stay in power as vassals pursuant to whatever backroom deal was negotiated pre-war, or if globohomo gets extra greedy and breaks the deal with lucre in their eyes.
I have not expressed this before, but the thought has crossed my mind a number of times: We need more war. More destruction, more bloodshed.
Nuclear fuelled MAD has prevented necessary wars, and thus we have become fat, lazy, unmotivated, do-nothing self-indulged liberals (libertines?). I am of course writing from a western perspective, but you seem to indicate a similar POV on the eastern side of things.
Btw: The desert wars don't count, the power disparity was too big.
Rolo, do you have a recommendation on where I can read about the unjust peace of the 90s and 00s where millions died? I want to learn more. Great essay by the way. I also wonder how "profitable" trade with the West will remain with bank failures starting and US political opposition rising to sending money aboad vs care for its own homeland and citizens. It could very well be that the Liberal Opposition banked on a Trojan Horse. Or to mix metaphors, the music in musical chairs is ending and they've yet to realize that quite a few more chairs are being removed than one.
Ive read Russia is firing 5x the artillery as Ukraine and that the majority of casualties are by artillery. So if that’s true, then Russian kda must be a lot more than 2:1. Youre upset the war is going too slowly but why do you set a time limit if the Russian economy is doing fine and it’s the west that struggles? Maybe my assumptions are wrong about the Russian economy and Russia can not sustain this for as long as the west can. Could someone point me towards sources for that?
At least on the tactical front there seems to be an improvement. Although it has been known since the Middle Ages that you do not attack a fortress head-on, but surround it, and initiate a siege, until they are starved out. Russia seems to be doing this in Bakhmut, and in Avdiivka as well. It seems very clear that a complete tactical shift has occurred. Russia is also building massive defenses in the South. It looks like they want Ukraine to go on the offensive, and have their soldiers butt their heads on a brick wall.
You may moan about your oligarchs, but for God's sake, look at the West. Our current crop of Jewish oligarchs is busy destroying our History, our Culture (anti-White racism, transgenderism, and the whole post-modern lunacy, e.g. Science is a Social Construct), our working-class economy, indulging in the utter madness of the climate cult. Compared to that, Russia has it good.
So fighting an external war is the path to internal reform? And your idea of internal reform is less liberal and more authoritarian? Face it, Putin never had a conventional military capable of taking on NATO or even Ukraine for that matter. Putin’s calculus was, in the aftermath of Afghanistan, the US and the West would not resist an incursion into Ukraine. In short, it was a bluff. Putin lost.
I am late here - but This Just In (speaking of Milosovic - can't get any closer to that playbook!)"
"The International Criminal Court issued an arrest warrant Friday for Russian President Vladimir Putin, accusing him of being responsible for war crimes in Ukraine."
I think Rolo gets a "prescient" star today! So, Putin will not be going to G20 after all ?- it was just announced he was - New Delhi - September 2023.
Don't want to depress you, but here is some inside oligarch baseball, by John Helmer:
https://johnhelmer.net/is-the-bar-coming-down-on-the-dirtiest-of-the-russian-oligarchs/
quote
They aren’t advancing and a hostile anti-Russian “Israel” on their borders is here to stay for the foreseeable future. Unquote
Attached evidence of Igor/Harry Berkut (Gekko), made 4+ years ago?, which seems predicting „ethnic cleansing“ in areas, which are effectively now contested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCInqQFFGqs&t=2870s
https://youtu.be/gq9q9hCVq1s?t=1157
https://kazak-center.ru/publ/novosti_kazak_inform/krymskij_front/nebesnyj_ierusalim/164-1-0-4526?ysclid=lelwzbn991280021709
Any statements on these strange statements?
PS I do not speak Russian / Ukrainian at all, script tranlated with deepl.com
I don t see any point în destroying those bridges. The western arms would just pile up în central and western Ukraine, where is way more hard to destroy them. Yes AFU wpuld be more easy to be beated în the Donbas but they would just cross the Dnipre and them you have to fight them there with is more difficult because you have to do it from Belarus. Plus those bridges are very hard to destroy, there are 32 of them, very well built. You can t sent planes with FAB s because of AA, so you would need a shitload of kalibrs, at least 10 per bridge. But then again what s the Point? Why not fighting AFU în the Donbass where logistics are close to the border? As For olighars needing those bridges....? Why not just sent your stuff throw Belarus? Whatever the russians bomb they have to build back, they wont let Ukraine become Afganistan , so they don t bomb like the americans like savages.
(Slap) Snap out of it! lol ...