In the interest of fairness one can say "well if Putin is just a traitor he would have just maintained the exact same course as Yeltsin and changed nothing but Russias position and prospects have greatly improved under Putin". That is a far cry from Putin is 5D judo chess master but it isn't ridiculous and could fit into the Zanon timeline. Putin's staving off the total dissolution that was going on with Russia does require an explanation and Rolo needs to drop the article about the Wests problem with Putin which he mentioned something about.
Long time Stalkers should of course be familiar with the convergence theory and that theory has far more explanatory power with evidence to back it than anything Zanon or 5D. When we speak of convergence we are speaking of like the early 90s, when the US wasn't doing trannies, gay marriage was considered impossible, there was no BLM, Europe was pretty much White, etc etc etc. This doesn't mean Zog wasn't evil even than but the Soviet elite that dismantled the USSR thought they were converging with respectable crooks with whom they were going to run a global protection racket as equals. The convergence party in Russia being ridiculous stupid boomers still to this day want to converge with that West which no longer even exists. Not much different than Poles or Baltic plebs in that particular respect. They are like the flip side of Zanonist, if Zanonist idolize a Russia that doesn't exist than the Russian convergence "hardliners" idolize a West that doesn't exist.
In order to really get the mentality of these fools one needs to understand the conflict between the Stalinist and the people around Khrushchev which the Stalinist lost. This is a subject which which neo-stalinist in Russia have spilt oceans of ink on and regardless of ones opinion on Stalin their explanation fits. The short and simplified TLDR is the people around Khrushchev were not anti Western, they were for convergence on fair terms and if you look at what actually pissed off Khrushchev it was what he perceived as the West rudely encroaching in the USSRs backyard for no reason. Like putting nukes in Turkey. But personally Khrushchev tolerated and even fostered corruption amongst the Soviet elite (which led to his downfall eventually) , he was an internationalist who spat on Russia more so than Stalin hence giving Crimea to the Ukrainian Soviet Republic, he was the one that pioneered the practice of building up the other Republics at the expense of Russia, etc etc. It's also worth mentioning that Khrushchev while a murderer was not an outright degenerate, for example he absolutely hated modern art and by today's standards of morality he would be considered a puritan square. That's another similarity between the convergence party and their predecessors, their preference for classy call girls as opposed to little boys makes them Puritans by today's standards and that is a literal point of tension between them and their Western partners.
The point of that digression is to illustrate that today's convergence hardliners in Russia are Khrushchevs heirs. They have absolutely no love for Russia and see it as nothing more than an asset mine to strip, they have complete contempt for all things Russian (the ridiculous anti Russian USSR propaganda received new life under Khrushchev) they have no ideological quarrel with the West but they do take personal offense at the West treating them like the junior partners and sticking its nose into their turf but they do want convergence and a seat at the table. People often forget that Glasnost round 1 took place with Khrushchev.
Of course today's convergence hardliners in Russia are dumber and less competent than their forbearers just like the Western elites today are a shadow of their former selves. But the point is steps toward convergence with the West started after Stalins murder, not the early 90s. Its obvious of course that in the 50s the West offered a genuinely attractive siren song and still did even in the early 90s and the current convergence crowds idolization of a West that objectively no longer exist is especially cringe and contemptable. But that is a symptom of the generational degradation amongst the elite. The ability for people to lie to themselves and deny what's in front their faces seems to become more pronounced every generation.
There was a time when I shared a very positive attitude towards Putin personally and was not overly hostile to the Kremlin but looking back now I can see that that was only possible due to not having any understanding of Russian or Soviet history. There is simply no fertile ground for Russian patriotism to flourish in the upper layers of Russian society. None. When the Roman empire teetered on the edge of oblivion where did it's saviors ALWAYS come from? Army Generals from peasant stock hitting the re-set button, it never came from the senators or the Praetorians and I do genuinely believe Russia is the 3rd Rome but not how the Zanaons mean. If Russia is going to come back it's going to be from the Army/GRU something like that just like with the Romans. It can't be from the court or its orbiters. And that's why the current Russian elite hates modern Russian Martial heroes with a passion.
From a historical standpoint, convergence theory is actually what underpins the post-WW2 plans to merge the eastern & western blocs under the authority of the UN (read: its overlords). These plans are a matter of record and were revealed as a result of the Dodd Report within the 1954 Reece Commitee’s investigation into tax-exempt foundations. Amazing revelations that promptly found their way into the memory hole.
So, compared to other theories, there’s more documentation and tangibles to support convergence. I think 2 new critical elements in the mix since the plan was adopted is 1) the increasing desperation of the west to steal & control everything to prevent their Ponzi collapse, and 2) the fact that a seriously hardcore faction of racial/religious Russia haters scraped their way to the top of the CW’s power structure. Whether the Kremlin Fellas are too stupid to grok the implications of these changes or have pretty much been onboard since Gorby fell is above my pay grade
Jul 15, 2023·edited Jul 15, 2023Liked by Rurik Skywalker
"A giant demographic chasm yawns open to swallow up the Slavlands, just like the shtetl wanted all along.", Do you think that might be what this is about? The purification by fire of the Kazarian homeland. War is usually about taking someone's shit, making money, or killing a certain people, of course these are stackable. Kind of doing the ground work for the construction of the new little Israel
I admit that I have, it an old and deep rabbit hole. I will give you a link to start you off if you should decide to look, it is fairly objective research and not part of the conspiracy, but provides a basis for which it's built. It surprised me that you aren't well versed in the theory, because you have written things that substantiated it, from my point of view anyway. Here's the link http://www.khazaria.com/khazar-diaspora.html
I fail to see any connection between your link regarding the Ashkenazi Jews and the three-legged stool of the West. By the way, I see no reason for anyone to shave bits off the three legs of the ruined and dying West. The weakest leg, the weakest link (if you will) in NATO's drive to conquer and dominate the world, is the Biden Crime Syndicate. There is no way the Big Guy will complete his current term in office. His removal will cause a crisis and a cataclysm as Kamala Harris (whose only talent is giving head) finds herself in a permanent economic and foreign policy crisis.
The 3rd Reich did well as long as the amphetamines lasted. Once the cocaine is gone from the White House, our gay and diverse "leaders" will stumble like blind men as the BRICs continue to crush the American empire.
Biden, Harris, Macron, Sunak, Trudeau are all hired figureheads and disposable. Policy-setters like Nuland and Fauci are closer to the top, but these are still only disposable agents of higher tiers.
If we look at it objectively, by far the most successful bit of this not war has been male Slav population reduction, on an industrial scale. Odd, no? Maybe it’s just a coincidence
This. The timeline of depopulation of fighting age males needed to speed up. The abortion culture in Russia and Ukraine was doing big business (way below replacement and many of those emigrated), but now there are innumerable excess women for human trafficking and maybe a country with a large male surplus? In other news China has a large male surplus. Likely unrelated...
' Putin also had unrealistic expectations of a rapid victory. When the Russian generals saw that this was not going to happen, they began to withdraw South, and they deliberately left expensive military equipment behind them as they retreated. I was told by knowledgeable people that this was a US trap set for Putin....
Putin seeks Russia’s greatness and independence. On the other hand, Yeltsinites like Shoygu would prefer Russia to be defeated and quietly returned to the Neoliberal policies of Yeltsin’s days. ...
There is a growing opinion that Shoygu assisted the US in their plans to mislead Putin and trap him in the quagmire of the Ukraine. In not entirely unrelated news, Shoygu is considering the run for presidency in 2024 to supplant Putin. ..
The generals had stolen the army budget and provided for themselves, while soldiers were unkempt and uncared for. Wagner group soldiers were well provided for, except when it came to Russian arms and ammunition. The MoD had no intention of sharing their armaments with the Wagner group, and Prigozhin began to worry that there was nothing left to share: he suspected that the generals had sold their stores of weapons to enlarge their profits. Moreover, Prigozhin understood (after his previous conflicts with MoD and their squabbles over armaments) that no matter what he did, he was going to be framed as the bad guy...
This is the way Prigozhin told it. According to the Russian side, Shoygu could not hope to defeat the Americans and so he cut a deal with them....
The story of General Popov is quite different. This brave general has been squashed by the MoD. It was said the reason was his harsh critique of general Shoygu. But there is another plausible explanation. A unit under the command of general Popov succeeded in seizing intact one of Britain’s most prized missiles, called “Storm Shadow”. Instead of being congratulated, the unit was punished, and general Popov promptly retired. It is possible that the MoD intended to use the Storm Shadow in a different way. Popov’s soldiers had delivered it to a scientific institute for studies. Did Shoygu and Gerasimov want to return it to the UK? '
I guess we won't be hearing any of this from the 5D guys. Well done Rolo and Shamir.
In response to your question in the piece, please let rip on a Russian history series. I hesitate to refer to it as conspiracy history because who the f*ck knows what we actually know about it anyway
Think of it as your kid brother poking you, and you get in trouble when you hit him. This has been played in so many places by the West (its the basis of Color Revolutions) that its obvious. Countries are afraid of the instigation of mid-level violence, and they pay the protection racket.
Ukraine was just another case of long-term mid-level violence. No one precipitating event, just a series of your ex doing more and more outlandish things until the dam bursts and you throw their guitar out on the lawn.
As a payee of this stalker home base I demand with reason to learn more about the fascinating Russian conspiracies. Rolo I demand the info of Russia flows. Otherwise you lose my paying hands.
I’d love to hear more about these conspiracy theories. Also you mention that Yeltsin overthrew Gorbachev. Why? We’re they not working towards the same or similar goal?
How about some plain language sweeping predictions?
Is Russia, the Russians, i.e. including the Russian Ukrainians in Donbas etc. going to be safe and retain their lands at least as much as they have now?
Dear Rolo Slavisky. I would like to get in touch with you in relation to possible translations of some of your articles: Would you please send me a message in my indbox this way I can introduce myself and my team, also give you further contact-info. Thanks in advance
In the interest of fairness one can say "well if Putin is just a traitor he would have just maintained the exact same course as Yeltsin and changed nothing but Russias position and prospects have greatly improved under Putin". That is a far cry from Putin is 5D judo chess master but it isn't ridiculous and could fit into the Zanon timeline. Putin's staving off the total dissolution that was going on with Russia does require an explanation and Rolo needs to drop the article about the Wests problem with Putin which he mentioned something about.
Long time Stalkers should of course be familiar with the convergence theory and that theory has far more explanatory power with evidence to back it than anything Zanon or 5D. When we speak of convergence we are speaking of like the early 90s, when the US wasn't doing trannies, gay marriage was considered impossible, there was no BLM, Europe was pretty much White, etc etc etc. This doesn't mean Zog wasn't evil even than but the Soviet elite that dismantled the USSR thought they were converging with respectable crooks with whom they were going to run a global protection racket as equals. The convergence party in Russia being ridiculous stupid boomers still to this day want to converge with that West which no longer even exists. Not much different than Poles or Baltic plebs in that particular respect. They are like the flip side of Zanonist, if Zanonist idolize a Russia that doesn't exist than the Russian convergence "hardliners" idolize a West that doesn't exist.
In order to really get the mentality of these fools one needs to understand the conflict between the Stalinist and the people around Khrushchev which the Stalinist lost. This is a subject which which neo-stalinist in Russia have spilt oceans of ink on and regardless of ones opinion on Stalin their explanation fits. The short and simplified TLDR is the people around Khrushchev were not anti Western, they were for convergence on fair terms and if you look at what actually pissed off Khrushchev it was what he perceived as the West rudely encroaching in the USSRs backyard for no reason. Like putting nukes in Turkey. But personally Khrushchev tolerated and even fostered corruption amongst the Soviet elite (which led to his downfall eventually) , he was an internationalist who spat on Russia more so than Stalin hence giving Crimea to the Ukrainian Soviet Republic, he was the one that pioneered the practice of building up the other Republics at the expense of Russia, etc etc. It's also worth mentioning that Khrushchev while a murderer was not an outright degenerate, for example he absolutely hated modern art and by today's standards of morality he would be considered a puritan square. That's another similarity between the convergence party and their predecessors, their preference for classy call girls as opposed to little boys makes them Puritans by today's standards and that is a literal point of tension between them and their Western partners.
The point of that digression is to illustrate that today's convergence hardliners in Russia are Khrushchevs heirs. They have absolutely no love for Russia and see it as nothing more than an asset mine to strip, they have complete contempt for all things Russian (the ridiculous anti Russian USSR propaganda received new life under Khrushchev) they have no ideological quarrel with the West but they do take personal offense at the West treating them like the junior partners and sticking its nose into their turf but they do want convergence and a seat at the table. People often forget that Glasnost round 1 took place with Khrushchev.
Of course today's convergence hardliners in Russia are dumber and less competent than their forbearers just like the Western elites today are a shadow of their former selves. But the point is steps toward convergence with the West started after Stalins murder, not the early 90s. Its obvious of course that in the 50s the West offered a genuinely attractive siren song and still did even in the early 90s and the current convergence crowds idolization of a West that objectively no longer exist is especially cringe and contemptable. But that is a symptom of the generational degradation amongst the elite. The ability for people to lie to themselves and deny what's in front their faces seems to become more pronounced every generation.
There was a time when I shared a very positive attitude towards Putin personally and was not overly hostile to the Kremlin but looking back now I can see that that was only possible due to not having any understanding of Russian or Soviet history. There is simply no fertile ground for Russian patriotism to flourish in the upper layers of Russian society. None. When the Roman empire teetered on the edge of oblivion where did it's saviors ALWAYS come from? Army Generals from peasant stock hitting the re-set button, it never came from the senators or the Praetorians and I do genuinely believe Russia is the 3rd Rome but not how the Zanaons mean. If Russia is going to come back it's going to be from the Army/GRU something like that just like with the Romans. It can't be from the court or its orbiters. And that's why the current Russian elite hates modern Russian Martial heroes with a passion.
From a historical standpoint, convergence theory is actually what underpins the post-WW2 plans to merge the eastern & western blocs under the authority of the UN (read: its overlords). These plans are a matter of record and were revealed as a result of the Dodd Report within the 1954 Reece Commitee’s investigation into tax-exempt foundations. Amazing revelations that promptly found their way into the memory hole.
So, compared to other theories, there’s more documentation and tangibles to support convergence. I think 2 new critical elements in the mix since the plan was adopted is 1) the increasing desperation of the west to steal & control everything to prevent their Ponzi collapse, and 2) the fact that a seriously hardcore faction of racial/religious Russia haters scraped their way to the top of the CW’s power structure. Whether the Kremlin Fellas are too stupid to grok the implications of these changes or have pretty much been onboard since Gorby fell is above my pay grade
Hey, your arguments are always interesting, thought provoking, and most of the time sound spot on. You need to write your own substack.
Thanks for your reply
I actually meant that for Dr Livci but no matter, your comments are always good too.
I need some clarification. I looked up "Zanonist" on the Internet and was told what a Zionist is. When I typed in "Zanon", this is what I got.
https://wikizilla.org/wiki/Zanon
"A giant demographic chasm yawns open to swallow up the Slavlands, just like the shtetl wanted all along.", Do you think that might be what this is about? The purification by fire of the Kazarian homeland. War is usually about taking someone's shit, making money, or killing a certain people, of course these are stackable. Kind of doing the ground work for the construction of the new little Israel
to be honest, i know that a lot of people have a lot to say about new khazaria.
me, i dont know. i havent read up on that conspiracy theory enough.
I admit that I have, it an old and deep rabbit hole. I will give you a link to start you off if you should decide to look, it is fairly objective research and not part of the conspiracy, but provides a basis for which it's built. It surprised me that you aren't well versed in the theory, because you have written things that substantiated it, from my point of view anyway. Here's the link http://www.khazaria.com/khazar-diaspora.html
I fail to see any connection between your link regarding the Ashkenazi Jews and the three-legged stool of the West. By the way, I see no reason for anyone to shave bits off the three legs of the ruined and dying West. The weakest leg, the weakest link (if you will) in NATO's drive to conquer and dominate the world, is the Biden Crime Syndicate. There is no way the Big Guy will complete his current term in office. His removal will cause a crisis and a cataclysm as Kamala Harris (whose only talent is giving head) finds herself in a permanent economic and foreign policy crisis.
The 3rd Reich did well as long as the amphetamines lasted. Once the cocaine is gone from the White House, our gay and diverse "leaders" will stumble like blind men as the BRICs continue to crush the American empire.
You failed to see the connection because there wasn't any, it was in reference to the sentence that I quoted.
Biden, Harris, Macron, Sunak, Trudeau are all hired figureheads and disposable. Policy-setters like Nuland and Fauci are closer to the top, but these are still only disposable agents of higher tiers.
If we look at it objectively, by far the most successful bit of this not war has been male Slav population reduction, on an industrial scale. Odd, no? Maybe it’s just a coincidence
This. The timeline of depopulation of fighting age males needed to speed up. The abortion culture in Russia and Ukraine was doing big business (way below replacement and many of those emigrated), but now there are innumerable excess women for human trafficking and maybe a country with a large male surplus? In other news China has a large male surplus. Likely unrelated...
I agree 100%, it appears to me that we're witnessing an ethnic cleansing
Here's a nice article from Isreal Shamir. He suspects that Shoigu, not Prigozhin, is an agent of western intelligence services.
https://www.unz.com/ishamir/the-march-on-the-kremlin/
' Putin also had unrealistic expectations of a rapid victory. When the Russian generals saw that this was not going to happen, they began to withdraw South, and they deliberately left expensive military equipment behind them as they retreated. I was told by knowledgeable people that this was a US trap set for Putin....
Putin seeks Russia’s greatness and independence. On the other hand, Yeltsinites like Shoygu would prefer Russia to be defeated and quietly returned to the Neoliberal policies of Yeltsin’s days. ...
There is a growing opinion that Shoygu assisted the US in their plans to mislead Putin and trap him in the quagmire of the Ukraine. In not entirely unrelated news, Shoygu is considering the run for presidency in 2024 to supplant Putin. ..
The generals had stolen the army budget and provided for themselves, while soldiers were unkempt and uncared for. Wagner group soldiers were well provided for, except when it came to Russian arms and ammunition. The MoD had no intention of sharing their armaments with the Wagner group, and Prigozhin began to worry that there was nothing left to share: he suspected that the generals had sold their stores of weapons to enlarge their profits. Moreover, Prigozhin understood (after his previous conflicts with MoD and their squabbles over armaments) that no matter what he did, he was going to be framed as the bad guy...
This is the way Prigozhin told it. According to the Russian side, Shoygu could not hope to defeat the Americans and so he cut a deal with them....
The story of General Popov is quite different. This brave general has been squashed by the MoD. It was said the reason was his harsh critique of general Shoygu. But there is another plausible explanation. A unit under the command of general Popov succeeded in seizing intact one of Britain’s most prized missiles, called “Storm Shadow”. Instead of being congratulated, the unit was punished, and general Popov promptly retired. It is possible that the MoD intended to use the Storm Shadow in a different way. Popov’s soldiers had delivered it to a scientific institute for studies. Did Shoygu and Gerasimov want to return it to the UK? '
I guess we won't be hearing any of this from the 5D guys. Well done Rolo and Shamir.
Another amazing article, thank you.
This Stalker would love to dive into more Russian historical conspiracy lore! The brief discussion of Peter was intriguing.
In response to your question in the piece, please let rip on a Russian history series. I hesitate to refer to it as conspiracy history because who the f*ck knows what we actually know about it anyway
Count me in for Romanov conspiracy theories.
Here's a new one... http://mileswmathis.com/natwood.pdf
My base case is that the West was running a game theory called Mid-level violence. https://newdiscourses.com/2023/03/mid-level-violence/
Think of it as your kid brother poking you, and you get in trouble when you hit him. This has been played in so many places by the West (its the basis of Color Revolutions) that its obvious. Countries are afraid of the instigation of mid-level violence, and they pay the protection racket.
Ukraine was just another case of long-term mid-level violence. No one precipitating event, just a series of your ex doing more and more outlandish things until the dam bursts and you throw their guitar out on the lawn.
Hey Rolo, would love to interview you for Soldier of Fortune. If you're game, give a shout -- sofmagpublisher@gmail.com
big if true
As a payee of this stalker home base I demand with reason to learn more about the fascinating Russian conspiracies. Rolo I demand the info of Russia flows. Otherwise you lose my paying hands.
I’d love to hear more about these conspiracy theories. Also you mention that Yeltsin overthrew Gorbachev. Why? We’re they not working towards the same or similar goal?
well the quick and dirty answer is that small differences can still lead to bitter struggles like say within the dnc-gop uniparty.
sure, they believe similar things, operate a similar way, but theres still conflict.
Believe me, I typically don't post links on other's sites, but I thought for a second you wrote this under a different pseudonym: https://www.unz.com/ishamir/the-march-on-the-kremlin/
I think there are way less plans made at the highest levels than people think.
Anybody reasonably intelligent knows that plans always go astray, you can never execute everything correctly 100% of the time.
However, one can have agenda's.
Agenda's are different than plans, they are more goals oriented than procedure oriented.
That is -imo- the explanation for a lot that is going on: opportunism towards agenda points.
Some people hate that, it makes the world seem too chaotic. So they invent Q or Z anon, and lots of others before that.
JMHO
How about some plain language sweeping predictions?
Is Russia, the Russians, i.e. including the Russian Ukrainians in Donbas etc. going to be safe and retain their lands at least as much as they have now?
And if not, why not? And what, then?
Dear Rolo Slavisky. I would like to get in touch with you in relation to possible translations of some of your articles: Would you please send me a message in my indbox this way I can introduce myself and my team, also give you further contact-info. Thanks in advance
feel free to translate whatever you want