Discussion about this post

User's avatar
Dieter Honboffer's avatar

"Many ostensibly Christian allies of Russia in the West are actually motivated by the Gog v Magog prophecy and excited about the prospect of the world coming to an end because of WWIII and not out of solidarity with the Russian people."

This is a very true statement. I have had a couple conversations with people who are incredibly smart but have accepted an eschatological framework from a US-based commentary from roughly 100 years ago. This was called the Scofield Bible commentary. It proposes a Rube Goldberg theology system that makes Aquinas look simplified. Its called dispensationalism.

I read with interest some of the comments from the slavsphere on eschatology.I can't remember if it was you or Edward who listed some translations. I don't think eschatology is necessarily a spook production, but it can definitely be a tool to create purity rites and break apart coalitions.

Expand full comment
xtuartb's avatar

Thank you. The more I look at the current situation, the more it resembles the two world wars (or one, with an intermezzo lull, if you prefer). In each case, but particularly the '14-'18 one, you have a closely similar situation to what you are describing here. From 1895 onwards, you had the infestation of government - primarily the British one - by the Rhodes/Milner imperialists, with the aim of destabilising Europe and picking up the pieces for a new world order. A propaganda narrative was carefully and astutely built up within the British media, which became wholly owned and directed by the Milnerites, to vilify Germany and portray it as our natural enemy, bent on challenging our empire and dominating Western Europe. Germany had for at least two centuries been our natural friends and allies, but our attitudes were transformed in the space of a dozen years, to view them with loathing. On the other hand, the notorious Triple Entente made allies of our historic opponents, France and Russia, and excluded Germany from the stability pact. At the same time, crucially, secret military agreements of mutual support in the event of German aggression were deliberately concealed even from the British Cabinet, until the die had been cast and we were plunging inexorably into war under the commitments of those assurances. The crucial weapon in creating the predicate for war was what i would call 'destructive diplomacy' - the whispering of contradictory lies and misdirections, aimed at luring both your chosen opponents and regional patsies into throwing themselves into the conflagration on the basis of wholly disingenuous encouragements from a small group of co-ordinated actors in the highest government positions, misrepresenting themselves as representing the agreed policies of that government.

That war was, notoriously, engineered, both in its inception and its otherwise inexplicable course of utter destruction through four transformative years. Not only that, but its eventual conclusion was also engineered to engender the next conflict.

I see the exact same thread now, running through the Ukraine conflict both in its inception and its conduct over the past couple of years. Infestation of power-institutions on all sides by actors co-ordinating to engender a conflict, by gross public provocations and media transformation of public attitudes, but also very likely, as you say, by entirely secret negotiations and agreements between parties. Culminating in a deliberate stand-down or inhibition of all attempts to rescue a peaceful, or at least non-conflictual, remedy for what had become an obvious movement to large-scale warfare. All intended to lure them into a futile, destructive, stale-mated and prolonged spilling of blood and treasure, as a prelude to imposing some or other new world order on an exhausted and demoralised polity and public.

'After' a conflict, media-control becomes history-control, and we may not know for some time what has been said and agreed in secret between the various blocs who are behind the current situation. However, on the basis that a leopard doesn't change its spots, we can at least make some good guesses on what has been going on. The main confusing factor for me, is to distinguish the vehicle from the driver, the elephant from the mahout. I think you're probably correct in your views, as there's plenty of evidence of the source of those ubiquitous infiltrations and infestations currently holding the power. However, I'm not even sure if it stops there, but the visibility problem becomes acute.

Again, a very worthwhile piece, thank you.

Expand full comment
9 more comments...

No posts